Re: Mercedes still may profit from Chrysler

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<58b1ba6e-718d-4d2c-aa30-13bc86f630f2@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Lloyd
wrote:
> On Jan 10, 3:25 pm, tetraethylleadREMOVET...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (Brent P)
> wrote:

>> >> 2) where do you thing good handling and reliability come from?
>>
>> > Oh, and you think every engineer is going to be honest "Well, we
>> > didn't design good handling into this car?"
>> > And reliability ONLY comes about from usage, not from talking to the
>> > engineers.  Jeez, are you really this dense?
>>
>> *laugh* dishonest as always Parker. Did I say anything about talking to
>> an engineer? No. Although most engineers I've known who were worth
>> anything would tell people straight up if the product they worked on
was
>> crap. It was funny to see some of the consumer mag reviews of stuff I
was
>> very familiar with...
 
> So you're claiming either Chrysler engineers design cars to be
> unreliable, or they think they are reliable when the owners re****t
> they're not?  That they're either dumb or dumber?

Nice strawmen parker. 
 

>> >> > Science you get from scientists.
>> >> But you won't get your engineering from engineers.
>> > I'm not asking for engineering!  I'm asking for information only
>> > people USING the product can provide.
>> > Tell me, do you trust Microsoft about its products or do you listen
to
>> > what users say?

>> I see the point has gone right over your head. Remeber the great ABS
>> threads? You argued engineering as it was presented to you by mass
media
>> publications. In other threads you chastised people for getting science
>> from mass media publications. That's the memory your recent comments
>> brought back.
 
> Again, I'm not asking for engineering.  Whether a Caravan has
> transmission trouble after 1 year is not something you find in an
> engineering journal.  It's something the owners tell you.

You're purposely missing the point. 
 
> And answer the Microsoft question.  Who would you go to to find out
> about their software, their own engineers or the users of the
> software?  It's a simple question.

I am not following your tangents.