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Re: 240D lights problem

by RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 17, 2008 at 08:47 AM

Roland Franzius wrote:
> RF schrieb:
>> Thanks Tiger.
>>
>> Tiger wrote:
>>> You probably just have to replace the ignition switch.
>>
>> I'll try to eliminate everthing down to the ignition sw. and then will 
>> order if necessary.
>>
>>> There is always power to the light switch... that's why you can turn 
>>> on parking light when engine is off.
>>
>> Ouch! You're right. I should have noticed. It's looped from the 
>> ignition sw. - does not go through it.
>>
>>> Are you sure there are no bunch of brown wires on metal chassis 
>>> inside the cluster area? Most MB I worked on has some kind of bunch 
>>> of groundings behind the instrument cluster.
>>
>> I had a close look at the diagram for the cluster of instruments and 
>> there is indeed a ground shown. However, I haven't found it yet.
>>
>> Some years back I silenced the seat belt buzzer because it was loud 
>> and would always run for about 20 secs, which really annoyed me. There 
>> was no sensor in the belt latch.  I have a built-in reminder to fasten 
>> my seat belts :-)  and it never fails. I did find a loose brown wire 
>> with a 1/4" wide spade connector but I don't see any matching spade 
>> connector.
>>
>> There are a few interesting things behind the cluster, including that 
>> collection of grounds you mentioned that are hitched to the chassis. I 
>> missed it because the felt pad was pushed up too far and held up by 
>> the speedometer cable.
>>
>> I found a black plastic box about 2.5"x1.5"x3/4" dangling from 5 wires 
>> that are wrapped with tape. Four wires are connected to the box via 
>> large blobs of solder and the 5th wire is free but it has a blob of 
>> solder on the end and I can't see where it might have broken off from 
>> any of the solder blobs. There is one free terminal on the box that 
>> has a smooth cover of solder but no evidence that the 5th wire broke 
>> off from there. Is it possible that that box is the seat belt buzzer?
>>
> 
> Check your radio connections and/or a 12V plug for external gadgets 
> (telephone, icebox?). While MB radio is off with ignition key position 0

> many people want radio or cooling even with ignition key off and make an

> extra soldering connection to 15 - battery direct somewhere. So the 
> internal 15-connection will be cold a soldering or has fallen off from 
> the connector.

I have no external gadgets nor other external 
connections.

>> The instrument cluster has 4 round sockets - a little over 1/4" 
>> diameter - and two are the connectors for the glow plug and the seat 
>> belt light, which is always dark. There are two free sockets but I 
>> have no idea what they were for - probably some items that I did not 
>> specify when I ordered the car.
>>
>> I haven't yet followed the wires that are connected to the ground 
>> behind the cluster.
>> Tomorrow morning I'll have another look, before my garage turns into 
>> its usual
>> furnace state these days.
>>
>> Have a great weekend  :-) and thanks again for your advice.
>>
> 
> Its time now to circulate the model and year of your 240D ;-)

Opps! I missed that one. It is a 240D model - 
1983 year.

I have removed the instrument cluster and it's now 
connected via the clock
connector only. Surprisingly the metal casing is 
grounded and the clock is
still running.
 




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240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 09:35:33 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-12 13:31:18 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-12 13:22:00 
Re: 240D lights problem
pattymark <CH1NKIEM1NK  2008-05-13 15:32:21 
Re: 240D lights problem
Wan-ning Tan <suntan@[  2008-05-13 23:04:52 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-05-14 09:57:54 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-14 10:30:54 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-14 14:54:16 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-05-14 23:30:32 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-14 21:55:34 
Re: 240D lights problem
"me" <someon  2008-05-15 10:16:43 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-15 08:57:48 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-15 11:27:31 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-15 12:50:33 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-15 16:24:03 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-16 00:15:52 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-16 22:18:48 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-05-17 10:46:23 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-17 07:36:34 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-17 08:47:34 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-18 15:26:29 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-18 19:58:13 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-18 20:27:00 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-19 10:28:45 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-20 17:12:18 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-05-21 18:55:36 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-21 20:05:11 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-21 23:18:23 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-22 23:14:12 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-05-23 09:37:05 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 08:49:53 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-05-23 18:36:00 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 10:55:09 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-23 15:00:30 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-23 15:10:22 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-24 09:38:37 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-24 09:36:50 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-27 21:50:26 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-28 21:23:14 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-30 10:11:39 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-30 19:13:50 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-30 13:04:36 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-05-30 23:50:09 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-30 21:21:08 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-05-30 21:34:41 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-05 16:03:55 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-06-08 09:55:15 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-08 21:03:58 
Re: 240D lights problem
"Tiger" <tig  2008-06-11 09:36:36 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-06-12 22:51:21 
Re: 240D lights problem
Roland Franzius <rolan  2008-06-14 11:18:25 
Re: 240D lights problem
RF <RF@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-12 23:01:25 

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