"Jinks" <Jinks@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:01:34 GMT, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> wrote:
>
>
>>I think you misunderstood. The exhaust header/manifold is split, there
are
>>two sets of three tubes that collect the exhaust from the cylinders.
Bank
>>1
>>Sensor 1 is mounted to the exhaust manifold that connects to Cyl #1. I
>>don't
>>recall which other cylinders it connects to, but it really doesn't
matter
>>for this discussion. Bank 1 Sensor 1 sniffs the exhaust coming from the
>>****tion of the exhaust that contains Cyl. 1, Bank 2 Sensor 2 sniffs
>>exhaust
>>that comes from the remaining bank. (Bank is a poor term because the
motor
>>is an inline and Bank generally refers to the cylinder heads on a
V-motor.
>>Having said that, bank is all we have, and the exhaust manifold is split
>>so
>>that it collects from two sets of three cylinders so the term works, if
a
>>bit inelegant.)
>
> Yeah, some misunderstanding. I know the motor configuration & the split
> manifold system, I just wasn't sure about your discription.
>
>>> If it's any help the codes it's throwin' are as follows:
>>>
>>
>>Proper etiquette is to give the full code, P0233, P0202, P0203, P0234.
In
>>the instance where the codes are all in the same family, you can use the
>>shorthand, P0202, 203, 233, and 234. You did okay, but there could be a
>>P1202, and then your use of only the last 3 digits could be misleading.
>>
>>I'm not sure where you got your information from, but the codes you gave
>>me
>>are completely different from the description.
>
> I got the codes from the re****t provided by the second shop I had
> diagnose the problem. That's the way they put 'em on the re****t. The
BMW
> dealer didn't give me anything, just said "the light is bad cat.
> converters, & a
> few other things. We'll do it all for between $3500 & $4000". I
decided
> a
> second opinion wouldn't hurt. As it stands I have ordered 4 new O2
> sensors &
> arranged to have the other repairs done. Total at that point will be
> around
> $700. If it's still throwin' cat. converter codes I can get those
> replaced for
> about $500. Total of around $1200 for a good runnin' 11yr old car with
> 160,000
> on the clock. Since I haven't made a car payment in over 7 years I
don't
> mind
> the cost, but I do want to keep it reasonable.
> You're right about the upstreem problems & those will be looked into
> before I consider the converters. Thanks for the help & the link!
Usenet
> is a
> great place to go for real life experience & info you can't get
> commercially.
>
Your car is OBD II (On Board Diagnostics, Level 2) compliant, this means
you
can visit Autozone and they have a standard scan tool that will pull the
codes and put them in a format that matches the link I sent you. Autozone
does this for free. For the cost of having the dealer****p pull codes, you
can buy the scan tool and pull them for yourself.
The codes you gave me earlier are not OBD II codes, OR they are OBD II
codes
and the problem is not the Oxygen sensors. The codes you gave me are not
sensor codes, they are something else. They could be BMW internal codes,
but
in any case you do not need CATs or after-CAT sensors.
To know what you need, you need to pull the codes from the OBD II data
****t.
NOBODY (that's n-o-b-o-d-y) should ever attempt to diagnose a problem on
your car without pulling the OBD II codes. If you look along the bottom of
the dashboard where your knee rests while you drive, you will find either
an
exposed data ****t or a concealed ****t behind a cover that is clearly
marked.
You do not have to hunt for the data ****t, the specification requires it
to
be easily found, and within a few inches of being in the same place on
every
car and truck from the 1996 model year and newer. Further more, the data
that comes out is standardized so that dolts like me can fix their own car
if they are so inclined.
I think you are getting ready to throw good money at a problem that isn't.
Or, the problem really is, but is diffferent than you think. This means
you
will be throwing good money after bad ...
Go to Autozone and pull the codes for free. Then spend the money ...
> -
>
> Jinks ('86FXRS, '07 FLTR)
> #64
> Remember, "No good deed goes unpunished"
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