In article <ftkvdp0j8k@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, anon@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> From: "BDK" <BDK@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.camaro,alt.autos.camaro.firebird
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: New Camaro
>
> > All in all, I'm very disappointed in the new Camaro. Just flat wrong
in
> > so many ways. Not that I could buy one anytime soon anyways. The
fantasy
> > Firebird pics are better, but still not great.
>
> Perhaps you're referring to the obvious lack of actual BUMPERS or any
> chrome on the vehicle?
Nope, I don't like chrome much at all. If I could have found my last
truck and present car (08 Charger), I would have got them without any.
>
> > #1 on my list would be a totally different interior than what appears
to
> > be going in it. That dash is ugly as hell, and that steering wheel
needs
> > to go too.
>
> Yeah, there needs to be a nice, clean interior design...something
designed
> for DRIVERS and not
> MARKETING MORONS...a 36" cup holder is probably what the marketing types
> want to see in the new
> cars...personally, I'd like to see a usable and comfortable console.
Yeah, I don't like the gauges down so low, and I want to be able to
actually put something in the console bigger than a pack of cigs.
I like the console in my car, but the cupholders are in a bad spot, and
just a tiny bit too small for a mug with a handle to fit.
>
> > Please please please, no more Rally Wheels. I never "got" them. They
> > just looked "I'm too cheap to buy some decent wheels" to me.
>
> Actually, I think that if people are given the option, they'll choose
what
> they prefer. Given the
> look of the design, I think that a set of classic 15x8" Corvette Rally
> wheels fit the car quite
> nicely...and would be a FAR CHEAPER option for winter rims than spending
> another $2400 (est) just to
> mount your winter tires.
You can buy a whole world of nice wheels for a lot less than $2400 a
set. If you go steel, about $2000 cheaper.
>
> Of course, that only matters in about 60-70% of North America...if you
> live far enough down south,
> you've probably never even heard of "snow tires" before. d;o)
Except for a few years, I've always been in the NorthWest Ohio area.
>
> Another thing is that, at least in the upper part of North America,
salt
> is used on the roads, and
> salt eats rims. Salt eats aluminum a lot worse than it eats steel, so
your
> pretty little 10x the
> cost aliminum mags need to be repaired or replaced a lot more often than
> steel rims. With steel
> rims, you peel off the rubber, take some steel wool to them (or glass
bead
> them), prime, paint,
> reinstall the rubber, and remount your tread.
I've never had any significant damage or wear to any aluminum wheels
I've had. Or steel ones, except for the time I hit the giant hunk of
steel and cut my tire down to the wheel and it dug a huge chunk of the
inner flange out. I got lucky at the junkyard and got a new wheel, in
better shape than my 3 remaining ones were, off a recently wrecked
Sierra.
>
> Yet another thing in favor of steel wheels is the fact that they're
more
> easily repaired. Most
> times, a minor ding in the bead can simply be pounded back into shape,
and
> any iminor warping can
> usually be corrected with a few new wheel weights and a proper
> balancing...which takes about a
> minute or two. While Aluminum mags CAN be, and are being
restored/repaired
> today, it is almost
> always at a cost which is higher than to completely replace equivalent
steel
> wheels.
>
> Price repairing a cracked aliminum wheel against replacing a steel
> wheel...you'll easily see what
> I mean.
Oh yeah, fixing alum wheels is big time bucks, if you have it done
right.
>
> Note: A steel spare is also a lot cheaper than an extra aluminum mag,
> too!
>
> > If I didn't have the ashtray to keep my change and spare stamps, I
don't
> > know where I would put them.
>
> Yup! But an even more interesting fact...if smokers are 30-35% of the
> population of North
> America, what car company would deliberately ignore 30-35% of their
market
> when we've known for a
> year or more that we're in a recession? Smart or "other than smart"?
;)
>
> Another thing that I'd DEFINITELY like to see is the return of the
FULL
> SIZED SPARE!!!
I was a "victim" of the tiny spare. My 79 T/A had one, and the one time
I had to use it, it went flat in less than 10 miles. Just came apart. It
was like 4 years old. Damn, I was pissed. I had to walk the original
flat tire and wheel to a tire place, buy a tire, and them pay the tire
store guy to drive me back.
>
> Barring that, I would like to see the public execution of the moron
who
> invented that (*@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "compact spare" idea...every car owner should be able to give him one
whack
> per wheel, until there
> is nothing left but a pile of pulp, which we can then use for garden
slug
> food...but then, I may
> feel more strongly about donut spares than you do. d;o)
No, I would have to agree with you, but a better punishment would be
making him spend his life changing the ones that strand people. In the
coldest weather possible.
BDK
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