STUK wrote:
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:3Y81i.427$b67.111@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> "David M" <NOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:464517da$0$3236$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:31:41 -0700, flrealbot rearranged some
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>>> form:
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>>>> lame website stuff snipped
>>> Your web site is not only lame, but has incorrect information on it.
>>>
>>> 351C and 351W are completely different engines.
>>>
>> I haven't been to the website, but everybody knows that the 351
Cleveland
>> and the 351 Windsor are as different as night and day. They are
completely
>> different. That's C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y.
>>
>> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely
page)
>> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
>>
>> I forget which is which, but I recall that one is loosely based on the
>> 289 -- its a small block motor -- and the other is based on the 429 --
>> which is a large block (I think the Cleveland is the small block and
the
>> Windsor is the large block). Obviously one would have to have a longer
>> stroke as compared to the other, causing the long stroke motor to run
at
>> lower RPMs. The long stroke will produce more torque at the low end,
but
>> will top out much sooner.
>
>
> Close but no cigar.
>
> The 351W is based on the original "Challenger V8" aka small block Ford
that
> was originally 221 CID then was released as a 260 289 302 in various
states
> of tune. The 351W is a higher decked version of this design.
>
> The 351C is not based on the 429 but was developed at a similar time and
> share similar design traits and share somethings like the distributor.
The
> 351C is also referred to as a 335 series engine family. The 429/460 is
> called the 385 series engine family. The 429/460 was also called the
"Lima"
> following the engine plant city name tradition.
> It uses a canted valve head design not unlike a BB Chevy head. The
> Cleveland was produced for the model years '70 to '73. The 400 was based
on
> the same design but had a higher deck height ( akin to the 302 to 351W
> relation****p) after '73 only the high deck 400 block was produced. A
> destroked version of this motor was released as the 351M (some say
Modified
> others say Midland?)
>
> Just to really confuse things the BOSS 302 was a 4 bolt Windsor block (
a
> leftover from the tunnel****t 302 from the ill fated 1968 Trans Am
season) It
> used a 351C STYLE head that was a unique BOSS 302 part.
The BOSS 302.... it was basically a factory canted-valve "Clevor" 302
that revved to 7000+ and was designed for TA racing... mofos are quick
little bastards and handled well, for their time
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