On Fri, 11 May 2007 23:20:02 -0400, "STUK" <BLOODYBRIGAND@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "David M" <NOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> On Fri, 11 May 2007 06:31:41 -0700, flrealbot rearranged some
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>>>> lame website stuff snipped
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>>> Your web site is not only lame, but has incorrect information on it.
>>>
>>> 351C and 351W are completely different engines.
>>>
>>
>> I haven't been to the website, but everybody knows that the 351
Cleveland
>> and the 351 Windsor are as different as night and day. They are
completely
>> different. That's C-O-M-P-L-E-T-E-L-Y.
>>
>> Wow, I can't believe somebody put together a site (or even a measely
page)
>> that says these two engines share anything beyond displacement.
>>
>> I forget which is which, but I recall that one is loosely based on the
>> 289 -- its a small block motor -- and the other is based on the 429 --
>> which is a large block (I think the Cleveland is the small block and
the
>> Windsor is the large block). Obviously one would have to have a longer
>> stroke as compared to the other, causing the long stroke motor to run
at
>> lower RPMs. The long stroke will produce more torque at the low end,
but
>> will top out much sooner.
>
>
>Close but no cigar.
>
> The 351W is based on the original "Challenger V8" aka small block Ford
that
>was originally 221 CID then was released as a 260 289 302 in various
states
>of tune. The 351W is a higher decked version of this design.
>
>The 351C is not based on the 429 but was developed at a similar time and
>share similar design traits and share somethings like the distributor.
The
>351C is also referred to as a 335 series engine family. The 429/460 is
>called the 385 series engine family. The 429/460 was also called the
"Lima"
>following the engine plant city name tradition.
> It uses a canted valve head design not unlike a BB Chevy head. The
>Cleveland was produced for the model years '70 to '73. The 400 was based
on
>the same design but had a higher deck height ( akin to the 302 to 351W
>relation****p) after '73 only the high deck 400 block was produced. A
>destroked version of this motor was released as the 351M (some say
Modified
>others say Midland?)
>
>Just to really confuse things the BOSS 302 was a 4 bolt Windsor block (
a
>leftover from the tunnel****t 302 from the ill fated 1968 Trans Am season)
It
>used a 351C STYLE head that was a unique BOSS 302 part.
>
>Confused??? Why do you think so many people play it safe and stick with
>SBC's!
Cuz it cost about twice as much to hot rod a "C" motor?
We got a '72 Mustang at work that we're building for a guy. He wanted
the original 302 gone and a 351 C in it's place. Intake, exhaust,
water pump, valve covers and distributer were all way more expensive
than comparable SBC(or even SBF) pieces. But then, he had to have all
polished aluminum stuff and although the motor is a sight to behold, I
don't really know that it was worth it.
But, being the guy that puts all this stuff together and tests it out,
I guess I'll find out sonner or later<g>.
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