Thank You, that is my sentiments exactly, with only driving this car less
than 5k/yr max it is a fun toy like a '32 roadster with a 350, the intake
and carb combination is street legal in all 50 states, the catalytic
converters were off this car when I bought it 7 years ago, if this were a
day driver I might feel different, to be slammed about emissions when I
look
at the trucks on the interstate smoking so black for thousands of miles
each
day. To try to sell this car for even near what I paid for it is
impossible. But to take the top out on a Saturday morning and drive it to
the golf course is what toys are for.
Thanks
"Elbert" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:io7em3l165pja01987a6o9tvh3bvh5prq0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:53:54 GMT, "Art" <awb0846@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>
> >Hello All Again,
> >
> >After doing tremendous research I think the conversion is not very
difficult
> >as long as certain things are compromised. Please allow me to run
these
> >things by everyone for comment.
> >
> >1. Emissions - 1984 was a very early stage of emission control and the
> >components can be easily bypassed or disconnected completely and be
similiar
> >to the '79 'vette, as strictly a toy car for me I feel the emmissions
issue
> >is non existant as I dirve the car less than 5000/yrs tops and there
are
no
> >emision controls where I live and if I must bypass those laws it can be
done
> >by either reregistering th ecar as a street rod or an antique.
> >
> >2. Intake and Carb - Edelbrock has a combination that will fit under
the
> >hood and not force outside body alterations,so on the street it is
> >invisible.
> >
> >3.Valuation - the value of an '84 C4 with 128,000 miles is very limited
as
> >it now stands probably the maximum value is less than $5,000 a very
> >inexpensive toy for a play car. With the conversion I know I could
sell
it
> >for around $3500.00 a $1,500 loss but much less than a new toy.
> >
> >4. Distributor - this is kinda up in the air some say it has to be
replac
ed
> >with a vac advance distributaor and some say t does not, i will have to
try
> >the original first and if it don't work then replace it.
> >
> >5. The biggest issue is the transmission with the kickdown, most
> >information is split 50/50 but it appears the the computer does not
control
> >the transmission and is controlled by a cable that may have to custom
made
> >but certainly doable I think.
> >
> >6. Digital dash - the digital (as another very attempt) will still be
> >controlled by the ECM.
> >
> >The total expenditures from Jegs (with the exception of the
distributator
> >and transmission) is less that $500.00
> >
> >Please give me any comments or knowledge from your experiences.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Art
> >'84 red/red
> >soon to be carburated :)
> >
>
>
> (1) who cares about the value of the car. It's your car do what you
> will.
> If is of value to you to keep it stock then get it fixed. If you want
> to hot rod it or modify it, then do so. You can post a simple
> question and you'll always get different answers. If you live in an
> emissions strict state then it has to matter to you in order to get it
> to pass. Otherwise its your car.
>
> (2) I guarantee you that there are a number of manifold and carb
> setups
> that will fit under the hood. I'm sure a tune ****t setup would fit
> under the hood too.
>
> (3) the Value is in your eyes....
>
> (4) If you go with a carb setup then you don't use an electronically
> controlled distributor (ECM controlled).
>
> (5) I'm sure a 1984 car uses a TV / kick down cable for trans
> control.
> this is easily modified to work on any number of combinations. You
> need to start looking at some hot rod magazines, online resources. Its
> very common to swap out 700R4 transmissions into old cars ... IF you
> are going to run a carb setup for fuel then you stay with a 700R4
> transmission. This is not a big issue at all, most any shop can get
> something to work here. I suspect that a TV cable out of a 92K1500
> would almost work fine.
>
> (6) I think the dash could be the biggest issue if its ECM controlled,
> but in 1984 there were very few cars that had any type of ECM control
> much less control over the dash. This should be very easy to call
> and find out about, as there are any number of shops that just do
> corvette work. I just don't think that in 1984 the ECM controlled
> very much at all, beyond maybe timing, fuel to some degree, and may
> have read engine temp and or O2 level to adjust for fuel.
>
>
> Get over the hurdle and go buy the shop manuals for your car. Make
> some phone calls, ask around where you live.
>
> A 79 Corvette would have a carb and distributor setup you could
> replicate. A TV cable for your transmission would be easy to do.
> You might make some real gains in power by going with a tuned ****t
> setup, but that's your call.
>
> Once again your project cars value is what it worth to you. IF you
> have fun with it and it serves your interest then who cars what other
> do. There are plenty of people who $hit-canned the early fuel
> injection crap and went with a carb setup on various GM cars, because
> a number of them plain sucked. Now with hindsight its known that the
> tuned ****ts are good performers, and not to hard to setup, or even
> entire engine swaps...LT1 for an example would be great candidate for
> a vette. Most any of the 5.7 engines out of Z-28 or trans-am would
> also be good (fuel injected).
>
> If that were my car, my only two concerns would be. (1) can I pass
> emissions if required (2) what kind of crap would I have to deal with
> to get the dash to work.
>
> Outside of that everything else is just how
> you want to proceed. Either old school with a carb, or something new
> with a modern fuel injection setup.
> -----------
> Elbert
> ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
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