Yeah, the C-4 is the red-head stepchild of the Vette family. I have a '95
Base Coupe. It has great 'AWE' factor with anybody out of the Corvette
family but it's treated with much discrimination within the Corvette
family.
That said, prices for C-4's are low. So if you're modding a C-4 that's
not
a Grand S****t or ZR-1 then you're not really doing any damage to the Vette
family.
My '95 LT-1 will outrun almost any stock C-3 and deliver over 20 mpg.
Name
any C-3 that can do both. As for the C-5's, their prices are starting to
soften and in a couple of years they will bottom out - then maybe they
will
be treated as badly as they treated the C-4's.
You should look at some of the Corvette forum message boards for ideas.
As
much as I hate to say it, Usenet is dying.
Try these message boards:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/
http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/forums/
"Art" <awb0846@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:dIN9j.70964$RX.29030@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Thank You, that is my sentiments exactly, with only driving this car
less
> than 5k/yr max it is a fun toy like a '32 roadster with a 350, the
intake
> and carb combination is street legal in all 50 states, the catalytic
> converters were off this car when I bought it 7 years ago, if this were
a
> day driver I might feel different, to be slammed about emissions when I
> look
> at the trucks on the interstate smoking so black for thousands of miles
> each
> day. To try to sell this car for even near what I paid for it is
> impossible. But to take the top out on a Saturday morning and drive it
to
> the golf course is what toys are for.
>
> Thanks
> "Elbert" <ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:io7em3l165pja01987a6o9tvh3bvh5prq0@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:53:54 GMT, "Art" <awb0846@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >Hello All Again,
>> >
>> >After doing tremendous research I think the conversion is not very
> difficult
>> >as long as certain things are compromised. Please allow me to run
these
>> >things by everyone for comment.
>> >
>> >1. Emissions - 1984 was a very early stage of emission control and the
>> >components can be easily bypassed or disconnected completely and be
> similiar
>> >to the '79 'vette, as strictly a toy car for me I feel the emmissions
> issue
>> >is non existant as I dirve the car less than 5000/yrs tops and there
are
> no
>> >emision controls where I live and if I must bypass those laws it can
be
> done
>> >by either reregistering th ecar as a street rod or an antique.
>> >
>> >2. Intake and Carb - Edelbrock has a combination that will fit under
the
>> >hood and not force outside body alterations,so on the street it is
>> >invisible.
>> >
>> >3.Valuation - the value of an '84 C4 with 128,000 miles is very
limited
> as
>> >it now stands probably the maximum value is less than $5,000 a very
>> >inexpensive toy for a play car. With the conversion I know I could
sell
> it
>> >for around $3500.00 a $1,500 loss but much less than a new toy.
>> >
>> >4. Distributor - this is kinda up in the air some say it has to be
>> >replac
> ed
>> >with a vac advance distributaor and some say t does not, i will have
to
> try
>> >the original first and if it don't work then replace it.
>> >
>> >5. The biggest issue is the transmission with the kickdown, most
>> >information is split 50/50 but it appears the the computer does not
> control
>> >the transmission and is controlled by a cable that may have to custom
> made
>> >but certainly doable I think.
>> >
>> >6. Digital dash - the digital (as another very attempt) will still be
>> >controlled by the ECM.
>> >
>> >The total expenditures from Jegs (with the exception of the
>> >distributator
>> >and transmission) is less that $500.00
>> >
>> >Please give me any comments or knowledge from your experiences.
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance.
>> >
>> >Art
>> >'84 red/red
>> >soon to be carburated :)
>> >
>>
>>
>> (1) who cares about the value of the car. It's your car do what you
>> will.
>> If is of value to you to keep it stock then get it fixed. If you want
>> to hot rod it or modify it, then do so. You can post a simple
>> question and you'll always get different answers. If you live in an
>> emissions strict state then it has to matter to you in order to get it
>> to pass. Otherwise its your car.
>>
>> (2) I guarantee you that there are a number of manifold and carb
>> setups
>> that will fit under the hood. I'm sure a tune ****t setup would fit
>> under the hood too.
>>
>> (3) the Value is in your eyes....
>>
>> (4) If you go with a carb setup then you don't use an electronically
>> controlled distributor (ECM controlled).
>>
>> (5) I'm sure a 1984 car uses a TV / kick down cable for trans
>> control.
>> this is easily modified to work on any number of combinations. You
>> need to start looking at some hot rod magazines, online resources. Its
>> very common to swap out 700R4 transmissions into old cars ... IF you
>> are going to run a carb setup for fuel then you stay with a 700R4
>> transmission. This is not a big issue at all, most any shop can get
>> something to work here. I suspect that a TV cable out of a 92K1500
>> would almost work fine.
>>
>> (6) I think the dash could be the biggest issue if its ECM controlled,
>> but in 1984 there were very few cars that had any type of ECM control
>> much less control over the dash. This should be very easy to call
>> and find out about, as there are any number of shops that just do
>> corvette work. I just don't think that in 1984 the ECM controlled
>> very much at all, beyond maybe timing, fuel to some degree, and may
>> have read engine temp and or O2 level to adjust for fuel.
>>
>>
>> Get over the hurdle and go buy the shop manuals for your car. Make
>> some phone calls, ask around where you live.
>>
>> A 79 Corvette would have a carb and distributor setup you could
>> replicate. A TV cable for your transmission would be easy to do.
>> You might make some real gains in power by going with a tuned ****t
>> setup, but that's your call.
>>
>> Once again your project cars value is what it worth to you. IF you
>> have fun with it and it serves your interest then who cars what other
>> do. There are plenty of people who $hit-canned the early fuel
>> injection crap and went with a carb setup on various GM cars, because
>> a number of them plain sucked. Now with hindsight its known that the
>> tuned ****ts are good performers, and not to hard to setup, or even
>> entire engine swaps...LT1 for an example would be great candidate for
>> a vette. Most any of the 5.7 engines out of Z-28 or trans-am would
>> also be good (fuel injected).
>>
>> If that were my car, my only two concerns would be. (1) can I pass
>> emissions if required (2) what kind of crap would I have to deal with
>> to get the dash to work.
>>
>> Outside of that everything else is just how
>> you want to proceed. Either old school with a carb, or something new
>> with a modern fuel injection setup.
>> -----------
>> Elbert
>> ask@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
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