Re: GPS Nav in 2008 / attn: Andrew

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>Andrew DeFaria wrote:
>> MikeSo wrote:
>> Apologizing in advance for the top posting ...
>>=20
>> Not true Andy, people did respond rudely to you initially.
>
> I agree! People did respond rudely or at least it was them that
> escalated things...=20
>

My typo. People did NOT respond rudely to you (as you well know). People =
gave you responses such as (and I will paraphrase here) "save your =
money, don't buy the GPS" or "get a ****table model instead" or "I've not =
been happy with my GPS and here is why ..."

In each of these cases you berated these people for not giving you what =
you wanted, which was GPS specs, information or access to the manual =
(which you did get rather early on in this thread) but instead gave you =
their opinion.

It is dishonest for you to say otherwise, but do what you want because =
other readers of this thread and this newsgroup already know the truth.

Got any other research you want someone else to do for you are can you =
go now?

>> What they did was give you opinion when you were seeking information.
>> You did not take kindly to others opinions on Nav systems and began
>> responding in rude tones which have continually increased to the
>> point where now you are acting like a total dick.  =20
>
> Why thank you but that's not exactly how it happened. I responding
> saying I was not looking for their off the topic opinions rather I
> was looking for information. They then began the escalation... =20
>

I had spoken to people like that it might not have gotten to where we =
are today but I went back and looked at this entire thread. You =
immediately started putting people down for giving opinion and not =
owners manuals and instructions. The first -bombs dropped came from you. =
Your responses ensured that things would escalate.


>> Repeatedly you have responded to others that "no one" can control you
>> or what you wish to post=20
>
> That's right.
>=20
>> and yet your original issue with a few of the other posters was that
>> you could not control how they chose to respond and your criticism
>> for not answering in the manner you wanted. =20
>
> Check your facts jack! I never stated nor thought that I could
> control how they responded, I just said that how they responded was
> not what I was looking for. =20
>=20

Here is a quote from your post of Dec. 8:

"Again (for the dense among you), vague griping was not requested -=20
thoughts yes - vague gripping no. IOW surprisingly enough I was looking=20
for information - not *****ing. And even above I did say "I was really=20
looking for...". Did you not see/get that or are you just being=20
argumentative? Cause if you want an argument I'd be happy to oblige..."

Looks more like you picking a fight than just letting someone know that =
you were looking for different information.

From later in that same day:

"Did it ever occur to your little pea brain there sonny that 1) I am=20
grown up already, 2) I was asking for information - something a grown up =

seeks and 3) griping and *****ing are the dominion of immature,=20
non-grown up (actually not matured yet - age is not always a sign of=20
maturity or intellect) people?
Probably not. I mean after all you don't even have a real name yet!"

<sarcasm>

Yes, thats a sure way to keep things calm and the discusion reasonable =
around a newsgroup!

</sarcasm>

>> Hmmmm ... seems hypocritical to expect others to do what _you_ want
>> while flaunting in their face that you are a "free spirit" and will
>> post what and when including assaulting others with profanity ...
>> just because you can.  =20
>
> That's because you're striking down your own strawman! Again, I
> didn't attempt to control what they posted, nor did I say that they
> can't post it - I just said it was not what I was looking for.
> Apparently you can't discern the difference between the two...  =20
>=20
>> I'm sure you'll have some unreasoned response to this as well but
>> myself and others here see what is really going on.=20
>
> You see only what you want to see apparently.
>=20
>> We know for whom the bell "trolls", it "trolls" for thee.
>
> I ain't hearing no bells...

I am not surprised. The ringing is deafening to other readers in the =
newsgroup.

--=20

Thanks,
  Mike
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<DIV>&gt;Andrew DeFaria wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; MikeSo wrote:<BR>&gt;&gt; =
Apologizing=20
in advance for the top posting ...<BR>&gt;&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; Not true =
Andy,=20
people did respond rudely to you initially.</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&gt; I agree! People did respond rudely or at least it was them=20
that<BR>&gt; escalated things... <BR>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My typo. People did NOT respond rudely =
to you (as=20
you well know). People gave you responses such as (and I will paraphrase =
here)=20
"save your money, don't buy the GPS" or "get a ****table model instead" =
or "I've=20
not been happy with my GPS and here is why ..."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>In each of these cases you berated =
these people for=20
not giving you what you wanted, which was GPS specs, information or =
access to=20
the manual (which you did get rather early on in this thread) but =
instead gave=20
you their opinion.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>It is dishonest for you to say =
otherwise, but do=20
what you want because other readers of this thread and this newsgroup =
already=20
know the truth.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Got any other research you want someone =
else to do=20
for you are can you go now?</FONT></FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><BR>&gt;&gt; What they did was give you opinion when you were =
seeking=20
information.<BR>&gt;&gt; You did not take kindly to others opinions on =
Nav=20
systems and began<BR>&gt;&gt; responding in rude tones which have =
continually=20
increased to the<BR>&gt;&gt; point where now you are acting like a total =

dick.&nbsp;&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&gt;<BR>&gt; Why thank you but that's not exactly how it happened. =
I=20
responding<BR>&gt; saying I was not looking for their off the topic =
opinions=20
rather I<BR>&gt; was looking for information. They then began the=20
escalation...&nbsp; <BR>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I had spoken to people like that it =
might not have=20
gotten to where we are today but I went back and looked at this entire =
thread.=20
You immediately started putting people down for giving opinion and not =
owners=20
manuals and instructions. The first -bombs dropped came from you. Your =
responses=20
ensured that things would escalate.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><BR>&gt;&gt; Repeatedly you have responded to others that "no one" =
can=20
control you<BR>&gt;&gt; or what you wish to post <BR><FONT face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&gt; That's right.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; and yet your original issue =
with a=20
few of the other posters was that<BR>&gt;&gt; you could not control how =
they=20
chose to respond and your criticism<BR>&gt;&gt; for not answering in the =
manner=20
you wanted.&nbsp; </DIV>
<DIV>&gt;<BR>&gt; Check your facts jack! I never stated nor thought that =
I=20
could<BR>&gt; control how they responded, I just said that how they =
responded=20
was<BR>&gt; not what I was looking for.&nbsp; <BR>&gt; </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Here is a quote from your post of Dec.=20
8:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Again (for the dense among you), vague =
griping was=20
not requested - <BR>thoughts yes - vague gripping no. IOW surprisingly =
enough I=20
was looking <BR>for information - not *****ing. And even above I did say =
"I was=20
really <BR>looking for...". Did you not see/get that or are you just =
being=20
<BR>argumentative? Cause if you want an argument I'd be happy to=20
oblige..."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Looks more like you picking a fight =
than just=20
letting someone know that you were looking for different=20
information.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>From later in that same =
day:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>"Did it ever occur to your little pea =
brain there=20
sonny that 1) I am <BR>grown up already, 2) I was asking for information =
-=20
something a grown up <BR>seeks and 3) griping and *****ing are the =
dominion of=20
immature, <BR>non-grown up (actually not matured yet - age is not always =
a sign=20
of <BR>maturity or intellect) people?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Probably not. I mean after all you =
don't even have=20
a real name yet!"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;sarcasm&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Yes, thats a sure way to keep things =
calm and the=20
discusion reasonable around a newsgroup!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>&lt;/sarcasm&gt;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT><BR>&gt;&gt; Hmmmm ... seems =
hypocritical to=20
expect others to do what _you_ want<BR>&gt;&gt; while flaunting in their =
face=20
that you are a "free spirit" and will<BR>&gt;&gt; post what and when =
including=20
assaulting others with profanity ...<BR>&gt;&gt; just because you=20
can.&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; That's because you're striking down your own strawman! Again,=20
I<BR>&gt; didn't attempt to control what they posted, nor did I say that =

they<BR>&gt; can't post it - I just said it was not what I was looking=20
for.<BR>&gt; Apparently you can't discern the difference between the=20
two...&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;&gt; I'm sure you'll have some =
unreasoned=20
response to this as well but<BR>&gt;&gt; myself and others here see what =
is=20
really going on. <BR>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; You see only what you want to see apparently.<BR>&gt; =
<BR>&gt;&gt; We=20
know for whom the bell "trolls", it "trolls" for thee.<BR>&gt;</DIV>
<DIV>&gt; I ain't hearing no bells...</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I am not surprised. The ringing is =
deafening to=20
other readers in the newsgroup.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><BR>-- </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,<BR>&nbsp; Mike</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>

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