There is a lot wrong with the picture. GM has been pretty unresponsive in
many areas over the last couple of decades. They have been paying the
price
for it, too. They have begun a new phase, with Cadillac reinventing
itself
as they recognize their clientele are 60 and above and reducing in
numbers,
so they have tried some new styling, added some performance, went racing,
and are bringing in a new set of Cadillac buyers.
They still don't appeal to me, but they are getting younger buyers,
although
not the upper teens and young 20-something year olds.
Toyota is selling a lot. They are Number 2 and in some surveys I have
read,
they are Number 1. They seem to listen, some. Not much, but better than
GM. They are also producing a lot more cars that are a price people can
afford. However, in my own experience, Toyotas have a crap resale value
at
a dealer, which is the wrong message to give. It tells me that a used
Toyota is worthless and if it is worthless to even a Toyota dealer, why
should I bother to buy a new one to lose everything?
But since most buyers buy on credit, and simply roll the debt from one car
to the next, they haven't figured out that they are dealing with no value.
Personally, I find GM styling to be the worse in a long, long time. Yes,
some of the late '70s box cars were not much, but compared to the ugly
front
ends they have been putting on in the last 10 or so years, those boxy
Chevies from 1980 are a clean look. My opinion, yours may vary.
Personally, I haven't found any Chevy other than the Corvette that I have
been excited about. The Camaro I think lost its audience, and as such,
lost
its marketplace and went under. The original Camaros were great platforms
to produce the car you wanted. Any engine, modify as needed, and it was
yours. The 4th Gen Camaro was a V6 that took a dump after 100,000 miles
or
the full fledged LT1 and LS1. There wasn't much middle ground, unless you
consider the Z28 middle ground with the SS the top. I think that weakened
the Z28 status. There were far too many, and almost everyone had one.
It wasn't that easy to mod. The darn engine sat under the wind****eld,
making most work a real pain. While the LT1 and LS1 produced great
performance with decent economy, they were not cheap to work on and parts
weren't found in every corner store. And it got so big on the outside,
yet
seemed to be smaller on the inside. A buddy had an '85 and I'm sure the
back seat had more room. I know the '69 I had did. Ford kept the Mustang
pony car formula true with the Mustang, and even though the Camaro was
more
aerodynamic, the Mustang stayed true to Mustang style, so there was no
mistaking it, and it said Mustang even to non-car people.
The '98 to '02 Camaro looks like a wider Chrysler Sebring.
And yes, I have a 4th Gen Z28, and I like it, but it is a lot less than GM
was capable of.
I drove a bunch of new Chevies a few months ago. They ran well, handled
well, performed well, but none of them fired any juices in me but the
Corvette. The Cobalt did some, especially the supercharged Cobalt, but
the
supercharged one was too much a straight line car, and not a good overall
handler.
But then, there isn't much that turns me on with Toyota either. I like
the
Spyder, but I wouldn't sell a Corvette to get it. And nothing else really
fires the juices. The Corolla is a nice car, but is more tuned for a
grandmother than someone looking for fun. Which explains all the Asian
car
tuners out there, retuning suspensions to handle and be fun to drive,
adding
horsepower to make the car respond to the right foot.
So what does this prove? Really, to me, it only means that all cars suck
anymore. They may be faster and more efficient, but they all suck in the
fun factor and the cool factor.
"Uncle_vito" <uncle_vito2002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:FoydnZUZ2OXgRQranZ2dnUVZ_jydnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Since more Toyotas than GM vehicles are sold in the world, there are a
lot
> of folks that agree with me.
>
> GM seems to be able to only sell trucks and Corvettes and a few
Cadillacs.
> The Corvettes and Cadillacs are only sold to those folks over 65 years
of
> age.
>
> Anything wrong with this picture?
>
> Vito
>
>
> "'Key" <Key@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> news:746dnSLnIOwqCQranZ2dnUVZ_q2hnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > "Uncle_vito" <uncle_vito2002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> > news:gNOdndXGueLxRAvanZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Because I do not like GM. They are a second rate car company.
> >>
> >> V
> >
> > thats your opinion of GM.
> > not everyones opinion...
> >
> > --
> > 'Key
> > =====
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> "CardsFan" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >> news:sYzlj.5639$5h6.2487@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>> "Uncle_vito" <uncle_vito2002@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>> news:6didnX46ApP3XwvanZ2dnUVZ_v6rnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>> Only thing is is that there is a big difference between the very
first
> >>>> Corvette and this ZR1, the 3rd incarnation of that performance
option.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, typical of GM, they are likely to produce a 2010 ZR1 with
660
> >>>> HP rather than the 630hp of this 2009 car, effectively killing the
> >>>> value of this guys million dollar car.
> >>>
> >>> He doesn't care. Why do you?
> >>>
> >>> AJM
> >>> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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