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Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations

by "Uncle_vito" <uncle_vito2002@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 13, 2008 at 05:26 PM

You have that right!

I remember in the 60s-70s anything the big 3 (4) made automatically was to

be accepted by the public as the best styling and performance available. 
If 
you didn't like it, tough.

They seem to have that same attitude now.

I believe a TRUE corporate shakeup is in order for them to be able to get 
their act together.  They are terrified to do it in that they could make 
matters worse instead of better.  That would also disrupt their good ole
boy 
network where they all get rich together.

One simple example if GM ineptitude.  At televised sporting events.  What
do 
the Chevy ads try to sell you.  Pickup trucks and SUV's.  They should be 
pushing cars not trucks and SUV's.  They are basiclly selling crucifixes
to 
the pope.  In reality, GM is basically fighting Ford and Chrysler for
truck 
sales.  They are looking at the trees and ignoring the forest.

Same with Cadillac.  They keep pushing On Star with ads where Grandma 
crashes and can't get out or locks her keys in the car.  Are these kinds
of 
ads going to get more folks (by default, younger folks) to buy Cads.  I do

not think so.

GM still has its head totally up its ass.  Their plan for profitability is

to lower costs, period,  not build a better product or get smart with its 
marketing.  They are going to lower costs by breaking the union, getting 
cheaper foreign labor, and cutting benefits.

They should be focusing on making a better product, better marketing and 
giving folks more value for their dollar.

Maybe they should continue to do to their entire product line what they
have 
done to the 2009 ZR1 Corvette.  Add a $1000 supercharger to to their base 
model, then double the price.   They are doing similarly to their Cad
CTS-V. 
Call that value?  Perhaps because the production volume for these cars is
so 
low, they figure there will be an equivalent number of suckers that will 
bite and buy .

Their management is totally inept and GM pumpers and the GM board are too 
blind to see it.

Vito



"Speaker of the Truth" <bconn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:fJOdnS6hlKxfzS7anZ2dnUVZ_s2tnZ2d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Don't get me wrong I love my Corvettes but I don't have a lot of hope
for
> GM. GM and Ford will reverse themselves when you see them gain back
market
> share. Not just a = point gain for a few months but 5-10 % sustained for
5
> years.
>
> It all started back in the 70's with the shit management.  When you put
> staff people into line positions this type of thing will happen. You
won't
> see a bean counter or lawyer making decisions at Toyota or Honda.
>
> My friend just retired from Ford after 30 years. One of the things he
told
> me about and I think he has been right is that the Auto Industry in 
> Detroit
> has a real bad problem. Their attitude is always "don't tell us how to 
> make
> cars, we invented them".
>
> In Japan when you have a problem, you fix it. At GM when you have a 
> problem
> you tell the customer to blow it out his ass, just like the 3800 engine
> intake manifold problem. Or at Ford with the 4.6 liter intake problem.
>
>
>
>
>




 19 Posts in Topic:
Trolls and mischaracterizations
"CardsFan" <  2008-02-13 10:04:49 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
"Dad" <knock  2008-02-13 12:19:11 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
"CardsFan" <  2008-02-14 04:56:03 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
"Uncle_vito" &l  2008-02-13 21:26:47 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
"Dad" <knock  2008-02-14 09:45:11 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
"Tom In Missouri&quo  2008-02-21 00:55:38 
General Motors' Remark
"'Key" <Key@  2008-02-13 13:17:26 
Re: General Motors' Remark
"CardsFan" <  2008-02-14 05:06:22 
Re: General Motors' Remark
"'Key" <Key@  2008-02-15 19:49:28 
Re: General Motors' Remark
pj <pj4380@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-16 10:47:56 
Re: General Motors' Remark
"Uncle_vito" &l  2008-02-16 15:46:49 
Re: General Motors' Remark
"Speaker of the Trut  2008-02-16 18:43:38 
Re: General Motors' Remark
Sal <jackwhite200@[EMA  2008-02-16 20:28:54 
Re: General Motors' Remark
Bob I <birelan1@[EMAIL  2008-02-17 08:29:11 
Re: General Motors' Remark
"Jerry G." <  2008-02-17 19:16:05 
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"Speaker of the Trut  2008-02-13 14:19:44 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
"Uncle_vito" &l  2008-02-13 17:26:36 
Re: Trolls and mischaracterizations
pj <pj4380@[EMAIL PROT  2008-02-14 07:28:43 
Re: General Motors' Remark
warp-9.9@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2008-04-07 18:50:29 

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