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Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter

by "GeekBoy" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 7, 2008 at 01:08 AM

"Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:PNhKj.1962$bQ1.1844@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> First, put a battery charger on the battery for over night. Get a load 
> tester, and check the battery for resilience after the load. OR, use a 
> multimeter, and watch voltage as you remove the charger. If its
dropping, 
> then you have a problem. If not, try to start the van. If the voltage 
> drops below 10.5v, and the starter turns, suspect battery problems. If
the 
> voltage drops out and the starter does not turn, replace the starter.
This 
> assumes the engine is not seized.
>


I just went out and tried it because the charger has been on the battery
for 
the past 5 hours.
I tried both of what you mention. The volage at battery was about 13.5
volts 
with charger and really did not drop after charger was removed.
I put meter on battery and tried to start. I went from  13.xx to about
12.88 
at start position then back up to 12.98 after I turned the key to off 
position, but still no starter movement or noise. Solenoid is on starter.

Bad starter now?
Should I still try to jump the starter terminals?

Thanks for the input



> Always load test the battery and check its voltage first when diagnosing

> an automotive electrical problem. This proves that your power source is 
> good, allowing you to find the problem, rather than wonder how much 
> voltage you lost in the bad circuit.
>
> (settles in to await the inevitable horde of electrical engineers and 
> wannabees that will contradict proper 12v neg ground troubleshooting)
>
> -- 
> Max
>
> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own 
> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
>
>
>
> "GeekBoy" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:47f9a490$0$30680$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Friday: Started my vehicle, but had problems. Sounded like battery had 
>> charge problem, but started anyway.
>>
>>
>> Saturday: Tried to start vehicle. Turned over but battery died. Later 
>> tried charging battery in evening with "smart charger." Before the 
>> charger, the whole eletrical system would shut down, but the CHECK
ENGINE 
>> light would come on when the door was open. (It's a 94 Ford Aerostar - 
>> Other groups are dying) Now I have the charger going on the battery it
no 
>> longer does that.
>>
>> Sunday Battery dead again, Charge again. Tried to start again. Nothing.

>> So I asked a neighbor to help me and try a jump start. Still nothing 
>> coming from starter. So what I did was test the start relay and jumped 
>> the terminals. Nothing again. Not even a spark, even though I did put a

>> meter at the opposite terminal and grounded it to see if I got voltage 
>> when I turned to the key to the START position.
>>
>> I did try jumping the terminals at the starter this morning, but got 
>> nothing because the batter was dead.
>>
>> I still need to try to jump at the starter again.
>>
>> So I am wondering bad battery or bad starter?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
 




 13 Posts in Topic:
Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"GeekBoy" <n  2008-04-06 23:35:27 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"Max Dodge" <  2008-04-07 04:54:07 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"GeekBoy" <n  2008-04-07 01:08:32 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
PeterD <peter2@[EMAIL   2008-04-07 08:44:34 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"GeekBoy" <n  2008-04-07 10:12:57 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
PeterD <peter2@[EMAIL   2008-04-07 15:03:21 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"GeekBoy" <n  2008-04-07 14:50:09 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"Ed H." <edo  2008-04-08 01:10:17 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"TBone" <NoW  2008-04-07 09:39:02 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"GeekBoy" <n  2008-04-07 10:14:39 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"Mike" <mik@  2008-04-07 17:11:01 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"GeekBoy" <n  2008-04-07 13:14:20 
Re: Bad Battery vs Bad Starter
"Max Dodge" <  2008-04-08 02:27:47 

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