"Mike" <mik@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "GeekBoy" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "TBone" <NoWay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Did you check for voltage at the starter main lug (where the heavy
cable
>>> connects)?
>>>
>>
>> I will do that in a little while. When I tried it yesterday, the
battery
>> was dead and I got 0 voltage.
>
>
> If you got 0 volts measuring at the battery posts the battery is junk.
> You want to check for a draw when you replace the battery so you don't
> ruin the next one.
>
it shows 12 volts today, but not even a click with the starter.
I guess I better take the battery down to a place to have it tested for
draw
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>
>>
>>
>>> --
>>> If at first you don't succeed, you're not cut out for skydiving
>>>
>>> "GeekBoy" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> First, put a battery charger on the battery for over night. Get a
load
>>>>> tester, and check the battery for resilience after the load. OR, use
a
>>>>> multimeter, and watch voltage as you remove the charger. If its
>>>>> dropping, then you have a problem. If not, try to start the van. If
>>>>> the voltage drops below 10.5v, and the starter turns, suspect
battery
>>>>> problems. If the voltage drops out and the starter does not turn,
>>>>> replace the starter. This assumes the engine is not seized.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just went out and tried it because the charger has been on the
>>>> battery for the past 5 hours.
>>>> I tried both of what you mention. The volage at battery was about
13.5
>>>> volts with charger and really did not drop after charger was removed.
>>>> I put meter on battery and tried to start. I went from 13.xx to
about
>>>> 12.88 at start position then back up to 12.98 after I turned the key
to
>>>> off position, but still no starter movement or noise. Solenoid is on
>>>> starter.
>>>>
>>>> Bad starter now?
>>>> Should I still try to jump the starter terminals?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the input
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Always load test the battery and check its voltage first when
>>>>> diagnosing an automotive electrical problem. This proves that your
>>>>> power source is good, allowing you to find the problem, rather than
>>>>> wonder how much voltage you lost in the bad circuit.
>>>>>
>>>>> (settles in to await the inevitable horde of electrical engineers
and
>>>>> wannabees that will contradict proper 12v neg ground
troubleshooting)
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his
>>>>> own facts." Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "GeekBoy" <nospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> Friday: Started my vehicle, but had problems. Sounded like battery
>>>>>> had charge problem, but started anyway.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Saturday: Tried to start vehicle. Turned over but battery died.
Later
>>>>>> tried charging battery in evening with "smart charger." Before the
>>>>>> charger, the whole eletrical system would shut down, but the CHECK
>>>>>> ENGINE light would come on when the door was open. (It's a 94 Ford
>>>>>> Aerostar - Other groups are dying) Now I have the charger going on
>>>>>> the battery it no longer does that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sunday Battery dead again, Charge again. Tried to start again.
>>>>>> Nothing. So I asked a neighbor to help me and try a jump start.
Still
>>>>>> nothing coming from starter. So what I did was test the start relay
>>>>>> and jumped the terminals. Nothing again. Not even a spark, even
>>>>>> though I did put a meter at the opposite terminal and grounded it
to
>>>>>> see if I got voltage when I turned to the key to the START
position.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I did try jumping the terminals at the starter this morning, but
got
>>>>>> nothing because the batter was dead.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I still need to try to jump at the starter again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I am wondering bad battery or bad starter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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