Re: OT Sold It!!!!!!!!!!!!

I understand that it may be that way where you are. But the figures for the

country aren't bad. Plus, the specific jobs you mention are in the one 
market that is down.

Its not 1980's bad just yet.

And what are you looking for in a pawn shop?

-- 
Max

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own 
facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York



"Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Nope. Even the job market is doing fairly well. Its hovering around 5% 
>> unemployment, and thats good. Everyone got used to an economy that was 
>> growing as fast as we've ever seen, and forgot the fact that it was
above 
>> normal.
>>
>> Check here, and you'll find the unemployment rate is slightly higher
than 
>> "normal", but right in line with the "normal" cyclical nature over 
>> several years. Look at 1982, and 1983, and you'll see why I'm saying
the 
>> job less rate right now is nothing to worry about.
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>> http://www.econstats.com/BLS/blsnaa4.htm
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> All the figure in the world don't change what is going on here. There
are 
> guy's standing at intersections holding signs saying "Roofer needs
work". 
> I never saw that before. Also a pawn shop I was in 6 months ago had a
nail 
> gun for sale, yesterday there had to be 25 nail guns. When tradesmen
start 
> pawning their tools, there is a hint there.The housing market collapse
has 
> put a ton of folks out of work. These "new job's"  are wally world type,

> part time, minimum wage, no benefits. No where near the good paying jobs

> that were lost. Lowes and Home Depot have laid of thousands and closed 
> distribution centers. Of course now they have self check outs.
>> Max
>>
>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own

>> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
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>>
>>
>> "Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> The fact is, the economy is doing fine. Down a bit, but not terrible
at 
>>>> all. The real killer is the fuel prices, not the housing market. And 
>>>> yep, thats all tied back to the housing market. But the economy and
the 
>>>> stock market haven't crashed, just the housing market.
>>>>
>>>> Don't believe everything you read in the papers.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The job market has pretty much crashed as well.
>>>
>>> Roy
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his
own 
>>>> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "TBone" <NoWay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> "miles" <nope@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> mac davis wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh.. if you think the crash is a myth, I have a house you can take

>>>>>>> over payment
>>>>>>> on in California... It only went from $320k to 200k in a year or
so, 
>>>>>>> but since it's a myth...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thats an entirely different matter.  The housing market ballooned
and 
>>>>>> was WAY over inflated for a few short years.  It went through a 
>>>>>> correction. It has little to do with economic issues.  Your 320K 
>>>>>> house was probably a under 200K just 3-5 years ago.  Thats the way
it 
>>>>>> is here in Phoenix. Current prices are just above what they were
3-5 
>>>>>> years ago. California is a tad different with massively over
inflated 
>>>>>> prices for many years. People finally cashed out, moved to cheaper 
>>>>>> states such as AZ and drove the prices up there.  No way could it 
>>>>>> sustain itself.  A correction was well predicted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once again Miles, you don't seem to see the big picture.  The
housing 
>>>>> bubble and its aftermath is the reason for our current bad economy 
>>>>> which is every bit as bad as the news suggests for the majority of 
>>>>> people, especially combined with the current commodities bubble 
>>>>> driving up the price of just about everything while wages for many
are 
>>>>> stagnent.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> If at first you don't succeed,  you're not cut out for skydiving
>>>>>
>>>>>
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