Re: OT Sold It!!!!!!!!!!!!

"Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>I understand that it may be that way where you are. But the figures for
the 
>country aren't bad. Plus, the specific jobs you mention are in the one 
>market that is down.

But that has far reaching effect into other related industries.

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> Its not 1980's bad just yet.
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> And what are you looking for in a pawn shop?
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A decent Penn 850 surf reel. They had a 950 but for $20 more I can buy a
new 
one off Ebay.
Oh, the water is about 78 degrees.

Roy


> Max
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> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own 
> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
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> "Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> Nope. Even the job market is doing fairly well. Its hovering around 5%

>>> unemployment, and thats good. Everyone got used to an economy that was

>>> growing as fast as we've ever seen, and forgot the fact that it was 
>>> above normal.
>>>
>>> Check here, and you'll find the unemployment rate is slightly higher 
>>> than "normal", but right in line with the "normal" cyclical nature
over 
>>> several years. Look at 1982, and 1983, and you'll see why I'm saying
the 
>>> job less rate right now is nothing to worry about.
>>>
>>> http://www.econstats.com/BLS/blsnaa4.htm
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>> All the figure in the world don't change what is going on here. There
are 
>> guy's standing at intersections holding signs saying "Roofer needs
work". 
>> I never saw that before. Also a pawn shop I was in 6 months ago had a 
>> nail gun for sale, yesterday there had to be 25 nail guns. When
tradesmen 
>> start pawning their tools, there is a hint there.The housing market 
>> collapse has put a ton of folks out of work. These "new job's"  are
wally 
>> world type, part time, minimum wage, no benefits. No where near the
good 
>> paying jobs that were lost. Lowes and Home Depot have laid of thousands

>> and closed distribution centers. Of course now they have self check
outs.
>>> Max
>>>
>>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his
own 
>>> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
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>>> "Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> The fact is, the economy is doing fine. Down a bit, but not terrible

>>>>> at all. The real killer is the fuel prices, not the housing market. 
>>>>> And yep, thats all tied back to the housing market. But the economy 
>>>>> and the stock market haven't crashed, just the housing market.
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't believe everything you read in the papers.
>>>>>
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>>>> The job market has pretty much crashed as well.
>>>>
>>>> Roy
>>>>> Max
>>>>>
>>>>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his 
>>>>> own facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
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>>>>> "TBone" <NoWay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> "miles" <nope@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> mac davis wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh.. if you think the crash is a myth, I have a house you can
take 
>>>>>>>> over payment
>>>>>>>> on in California... It only went from $320k to 200k in a year or 
>>>>>>>> so, but since it's a myth...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thats an entirely different matter.  The housing market ballooned 
>>>>>>> and was WAY over inflated for a few short years.  It went through
a 
>>>>>>> correction. It has little to do with economic issues.  Your 320K 
>>>>>>> house was probably a under 200K just 3-5 years ago.  Thats the way

>>>>>>> it is here in Phoenix. Current prices are just above what they
were 
>>>>>>> 3-5 years ago. California is a tad different with massively over 
>>>>>>> inflated prices for many years. People finally cashed out, moved
to 
>>>>>>> cheaper states such as AZ and drove the prices up there.  No way 
>>>>>>> could it sustain itself.  A correction was well predicted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once again Miles, you don't seem to see the big picture.  The
housing 
>>>>>> bubble and its aftermath is the reason for our current bad economy 
>>>>>> which is every bit as bad as the news suggests for the majority of 
>>>>>> people, especially combined with the current commodities bubble 
>>>>>> driving up the price of just about everything while wages for many 
>>>>>> are stagnent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> If at first you don't succeed,  you're not cut out for skydiving
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