Re: OT Sold It!!!!!!!!!!!!

too warm. I prefer the low temps of the Chesapeake, at least until mid
July. 
Then it goes up.

-- 
Max

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own 
facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York



"Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>I understand that it may be that way where you are. But the figures for 
>>the country aren't bad. Plus, the specific jobs you mention are in the
one 
>>market that is down.
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> But that has far reaching effect into other related industries.
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>> Its not 1980's bad just yet.
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>> And what are you looking for in a pawn shop?
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> A decent Penn 850 surf reel. They had a 950 but for $20 more I can buy a

> new one off Ebay.
> Oh, the water is about 78 degrees.
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> Roy
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>> Max
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>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his own

>> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
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>> "Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> Nope. Even the job market is doing fairly well. Its hovering around
5% 
>>>> unemployment, and thats good. Everyone got used to an economy that
was 
>>>> growing as fast as we've ever seen, and forgot the fact that it was 
>>>> above normal.
>>>>
>>>> Check here, and you'll find the unemployment rate is slightly higher 
>>>> than "normal", but right in line with the "normal" cyclical nature
over 
>>>> several years. Look at 1982, and 1983, and you'll see why I'm saying 
>>>> the job less rate right now is nothing to worry about.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.econstats.com/BLS/blsnaa4.htm
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>>> All the figure in the world don't change what is going on here. There 
>>> are guy's standing at intersections holding signs saying "Roofer needs

>>> work". I never saw that before. Also a pawn shop I was in 6 months ago

>>> had a nail gun for sale, yesterday there had to be 25 nail guns. When 
>>> tradesmen start pawning their tools, there is a hint there.The housing

>>> market collapse has put a ton of folks out of work. These "new job's" 
>>> are wally world type, part time, minimum wage, no benefits. No where 
>>> near the good paying jobs that were lost. Lowes and Home Depot have
laid 
>>> of thousands and closed distribution centers. Of course now they have 
>>> self check outs.
>>>> Max
>>>>
>>>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his
own 
>>>> facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Roy" <Roy@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> "Max Dodge" <max340@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>> The fact is, the economy is doing fine. Down a bit, but not
terrible 
>>>>>> at all. The real killer is the fuel prices, not the housing market.

>>>>>> And yep, thats all tied back to the housing market. But the economy

>>>>>> and the stock market haven't crashed, just the housing market.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't believe everything you read in the papers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The job market has pretty much crashed as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Roy
>>>>>> Max
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, he is not entitled to his

>>>>>> own facts."  Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan of New York
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> "TBone" <NoWay@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>> "miles" <nope@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>>>>> mac davis wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Oh.. if you think the crash is a myth, I have a house you can
take 
>>>>>>>>> over payment
>>>>>>>>> on in California... It only went from $320k to 200k in a year or

>>>>>>>>> so, but since it's a myth...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thats an entirely different matter.  The housing market ballooned

>>>>>>>> and was WAY over inflated for a few short years.  It went through
a 
>>>>>>>> correction. It has little to do with economic issues.  Your 320K 
>>>>>>>> house was probably a under 200K just 3-5 years ago.  Thats the
way 
>>>>>>>> it is here in Phoenix. Current prices are just above what they
were 
>>>>>>>> 3-5 years ago. California is a tad different with massively over 
>>>>>>>> inflated prices for many years. People finally cashed out, moved
to 
>>>>>>>> cheaper states such as AZ and drove the prices up there.  No way 
>>>>>>>> could it sustain itself.  A correction was well predicted.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again Miles, you don't seem to see the big picture.  The 
>>>>>>> housing bubble and its aftermath is the reason for our current bad

>>>>>>> economy which is every bit as bad as the news suggests for the 
>>>>>>> majority of people, especially combined with the current
commodities 
>>>>>>> bubble driving up the price of just about everything while wages
for 
>>>>>>> many are stagnent.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> If at first you don't succeed,  you're not cut out for skydiving
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