On Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:23:40 -0700, "ScottM" <no@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>If you can't see the difference between driving on the wrong side of the
>road, driving at night without your lights on, not stopping a red light
>and not wearing a helmet, your head is full of ****. Those first 3
>things envolve other drivers getting physically hurt because of your
>actions, your own helmet does not. And I'm not talking about if its a
law
>or not, or if you get a ticket or not. That has NOTHING to do with what
I'm
>saying.
>
>Oh and another thing, I ride a motorcycle and ALWAYS wear a helmet
(legal,
>safe, full face one) so obviously that doesn't even have anything to do
>with what I'm saying.
>
>Oh and BTW, I didn't say crap about private roads.
Okay, turn off the Drama Machine, guy... ;-) I don't ride a
motorcycle on the street, but I do drive a Honda Odyssey - FL350, not
the minivan. And with a DOT & Snell Approved helmet, a real one not
the Taiwan Fake biker bucket with the counterfeit sticker. Even with
the roll cage, I'm not willing to chance it.
But I have a boss and several relatives who ride bikes - and one was
in Law Enforcement Motors for 35+ years and was saved from three bad
wrecks that would have been life threatening without the helmet and
leathers. Better the leathers wrecked than the skin under them...
It is a constant of the universe - Ride a bike on the street even
occasionally, and odds are you WILL drop the bike hard at least once.
You get cut off by a brain donor making a left turn in front of you,
or hit a hidden patch of sand or ice or water in a turn, or hit road
debris and cut a tire at speed...
If nothing else, your wearing a real helmet and other proper PPE
will leave a smaller greasy stain on the pavement when you wreck, the
mess that one of us has to come along and scrub up - and then have
nightmares about it for years.
>And to the guy that said we need helmet laws because of the state having
to
>take care of them: I bet you would like to have the government outlaw Big
>Macs because they are bad for you and it costs the state money to take
care
>of your bad heart? Oh, that is unless YOU like Big Macs then thats
different
>I bet ?
That's a good point but a separate matter. I'll only make this
comment on that train of thought...
That Big Mac should come with a 'Nutrition Facts" labeling on the
package, and once a week isn't going to kill anyone - but having two a
day, every day, is a recipe for disaster. All things in moderation.
And it would make it a lot easier on the purchasers to make better
choices if the cheapest items on the menu weren't also the ones that
are the worst for you. All things being equal, the chicken choices
should cost less - but they label them "Premium" and "Select" and
charge extra.
>What about the airbags? Do you think its ok to mandate them? They are
only a
>supplement so thats different? Or is it? What about cars that didn't
come
>with them, force the owner to install them?
That's not an issue anymore, since most everything on the road now
had belts installed - but I DID install my own seatbelts twice in cars
that didn't come with them. 1961 Corvair, 1962 IH Scout.
Airbags should remain optional (allow for disconnection for good
cause) as long as the owner knows the risks and is willing to accept
them. And not just lip service "Gimme the forms and where do I sign?"
> I don't think it should be a law to wear seat belts either. Even though
I
>do. I just don't think its right to tell people what to do if it doesn't
>harm me. (within reason, such as: your fat, Big Mac eating ass will raise
my
>heath insurance rates, but to me that's not within reason) I am curious
>where you draw the line...The helmet? The Big Mac? the Cigarettes?
Crossing
>a busy street? With or without a cross walk? Does it matter? Riding a
>bicycle without a helmet? Eating sushy? Drinking caffeninated coffee?
>Getting or not getting a flu shot every year? Going swimming and not
waiting
>30 minutes after you eat? Going 56mph in a 55? how out 57? Driving in the
>rain? Taking the tag off of your matress? Where do you draw the line ????
.
>I do have a problem with the government telling me what to do and when to
do
>it, and I am sick of reading that stupid warning on plastic bags that say
>"Don't put this bag over your head, choking hazard!" LOL no ****, give
me
>a break.
If you are going to "rebel against the rules", at least do it on
things that really matter and after well considered thought - Don't
protest just to protest.
California requires bicycle helmets for riders under 18 - but for
adults helmets are optional. And there are parents who are
proactively insisting their kids wear helmets on the family outing
around the neighborhood, but when they go out riding with their
children they won't wear one themselves... The Clue Phone is ringing,
and what a wonderful example you're setting there, Poindexter! Kids
heal fast, parents don't, and the helmets are not expensive.
The warning labels on plastic bags and wind****eld sun-shades
("Remove From Wind****eld Before Driving") are not there for public
safety, only so you can't sue the manufacturer for doing something
totally stupid, yet legally foreseeable.
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