"Jeff Strickland" <crwlr@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>>> Oil pressure is on only when the key is in the start position.
Check
>>>>> engine should come on in run, stay on in start for a moment and then
>>>>> turn off.
>>>>>
>>>>> Its close but a good tech might spot the patch and fail the vehicle.
>>>>> Right now there is a free retest for this one thing. It must have
>>>>> passed for years like this.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are starting to confuse me with you silliness. You are saying in
>>>> this post that the tech will notice that the light's Self Test Cycle
>>>> will be different, but in a different post you say that the owner can
>>>> get away with telling the same tech that there is no Check Light on
his
>>>> truck?
>>>>
>>>> Are you trying to convince us that there are more incompetent people
>>>> working on cars than you? I'm not buying it ...
>>>>
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>>>
>>> There you go with that reading between the lines and getting angry
stuff
>>> again. I prefer to make the lamp work correctly, I'm just musing
about
>>> why I didn't like the wire it to the oil lamp solution, I'm not
finished
>>> yet.
>>>
>>>
>>> There are some unexplained anomalies that might not throw off a
>>> professional automotive technician but if you want to come over and
fix
>>> this POS for free then be my guest. To be fair, even a pro should not
>>> see this situation very often if ever, even a pro would wonder how it
>>> passed smog check last time with no evidence that the wire has been
>>> there for many years. Either the last smog check tech was incompetent
>>> (the "test only" shops really are more thorough), or there is another
>>> wire splice outside the cable bundle that failed that I have not found
>>> it yet (doubt it). The driver is too stupid to remember if it ever
lit
>>> up and too poor to care so I have to play detective.
>>>
>>> I already posted my plan (connect pk/lg to t/r wire at test
connector).
>>> Maybe tonight I can post the result. But first some voltage
>>> measurements, you don't think I would just guess without some testing
to
>>> back it up.
>>>
>>
>> Okay, I finally finished. Well, at least as far as I care to. I
>> connected the wires as planned and now the check engine light works
more
>> or less correctly.
>>
>> There was one thing. When started, the check engine light flashes for
>> about 30 seconds (60 winks) and stops and stays off.
>>
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> It is not supposed to flash. It will cause a failure at the smog
station.
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>> That seems like an error code but I don't know if it will cause the
smog
>> check to fail. The owner plans to have it retested tomorrow and if it
>> fails, then get the referee at the DMV to rule.
>>
>> Now that all the pieces have come together I should have mentioned that
>> there were plenty of unused connectors coming from both the chassis and
>> engine wire harnesses. That makes sense in light of the missing wire
>> now.
>>
>> Anybody know what 60 flashes means as an error code?
>>
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> The 60 flashes mean nothing.
>
> An error flash will be a morse code sort of flash, kinda. The actual
flash
> will be a series of a couple of flashes followed by a pause then more
> flashes, a pause, and more flashes. Then the sequence will repeat
itself.
>
> Depending on the system the engineers employed, there are dozens of
> variations on what codes can be displayed. My Bronco could display a
code
> such as 562. It would flash 5 times, pause, then flash 6 times and
pause,
> then flash 2 times, then repeat. If the door was open or the AC was ON
or
> the radio was working, there could be flashes for these items too.
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It doesn't look like a diagnostic code to me either, fla****ng exactly like
that I have never actually heard of. I understood that diag codes are two
digit, shorter and usually require you to do something beyond start the
car
to see it. I suspect it will fail as well but I only set out to get the
lamp working, not fix any new problems it reviels (BTW, the smog levels
measured were all fairly low, the truck p***** otherwise). I can check
the
operation of most of the sensors but beyond that I'm not sure where else
to
go.
I disconnected the battery for a while so it shouldn't have any stored
codes. The fla****ng might indicate a fundimental miswire.
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