used car dealer****p experience?

Hi,

I'm looking to buy a used CRV from a Honda dealer and wondered if anyone 
reading this group has had any success not paying the various fees? 
(also what are the fees)

All price offers seem to have the magical + + beside it and an "admin 
fee" usually in the $350 range from the various dealer****ps have 
visited. Anyone argued successfully that they won't pay any fee beyond 
the purchase Price?


- buyer