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Re: Coolant Vani****ng: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs

by Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 21, 2008 at 12:06 AM

jim beam <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in
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> motsco_ wrote:
>> E Meyer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/20/08 11:03 AM, in article 13ron1td7br568a@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> "motsco_" <motsco_@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> E Meyer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Seems like you're jumping the gun a little bit here.  How low was
>>>>> it in the
>>>>> reservoir?  When you say reservoir do you just mean the overflow 
>>>>> tank, or
>>>>> the radiator? 
>>>>> In normal use, the system will settle out to where the overflow
>>>>> tank sits at
>>>>> the "min" mark when the engine has cooled & the level will rise to
>>>>> around
>>>>> the "max" mark when the engine is hot & has been running for a
>>>>> while. 
>>>> ----------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Where did you get this bit of misinformation? I've owned six Hondas
>>>> and the level in the reservoir never changes more than about 1",
>>>> hot or cold, summer or winter.
>>>>
>>>> If yours changes that much, there's something radically wrong from
>>>> what the Honda engineers designed.
>>>>
>>>> 'Curly'
>>>
>>> I get my bit of "misinformation" from the behavior of 27 different 
>>> cars over
>>> a period 38 years.  Where do you get yours?
>> 
>> ---------------------
>> 
>> Sorry, misinformation is a strong word.
>> 
>> Volvos and Dodge products that I owned had pressurized reservoirs.
>> The coolant level in them went up and down with temperature, but the
>> HONDA isn't supposed to, since it's reservoir isn't under pressure at
>> all. Boiling hot coolant isn't supposed to take up much more room
>> than cold coolant, as long as the rad cap is keeping the pressure up.
> 
> sorry, that's fundamentally incorrect.  coolant liquid most definitely
> expands as it heats - for both systems.  pressure doesn't stop coolant
> expanding, it simply raises the boiling point.
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coefficient_of_thermal_expansion
> 
> 
>> 
>> Since about '92 most Hondas will self-bleed any trapped air because
>> the rad cap is the highest point in the system. When any trapped air
>> is forced out, the air is supposed to bubble through the reservoir
>> and when the system next cools, the level in the reservoir drops as
>> coolant it drawn back in. That's when the owner is supposed to add
>> coolant up to the MAX mark on bottle. The owner's manuals and the
>> Helms service manual all tell the same story.
>> 
>> However, none of this theory applies if there's a hole in a hose, the
>> head, the heater core, the water pump seal, or if the rad cap is
>> shot. 
>> 
>> 'Curly'
> 

I think we all agree that this motor should not be losing so much coolant 
so quickly.
IMO,a coolant DYE test is in order. see if and where there's a coolant 
leak.

-- 
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
 




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Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-18 21:20:06 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Tony Hwang <dragon40@[  2008-02-18 21:30:29 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-19 10:07:51 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-19 21:48:42 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-19 14:15:59 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-02-20 11:39:32 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-20 12:20:28 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-02-20 16:18:30 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
motsco_ <motsco_@[EMAI  2008-02-20 10:03:58 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-02-20 17:24:22 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
motsco_ <motsco_@[EMAI  2008-02-20 15:36:18 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-20 14:47:20 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMA  2008-02-21 00:06:53 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-20 17:31:29 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-21 05:15:56 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-20 21:34:50 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-02-21 10:52:53 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
motsco_ <motsco_@[EMAI  2008-02-21 09:05:50 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-21 08:24:12 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
motsco_ <motsco_@[EMAI  2008-02-21 09:49:55 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@[EMA  2008-02-21 16:56:11 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
Grumpy AuContraire <Gr  2008-02-21 17:27:59 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-21 10:01:26 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
Grumpy AuContraire <Gr  2008-02-22 00:44:45 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-21 10:10:44 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
Grumpy AuContraire <Gr  2008-02-21 17:20:53 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_ther
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-21 08:43:27 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-02-22 01:36:41 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"Elle" <hond  2008-02-20 12:06:29 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-20 20:30:07 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-20 12:41:32 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Jim Yanik <jyanik@[EMA  2008-02-21 00:10:39 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-02-21 16:17:15 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-21 23:23:20 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-02-21 10:56:59 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-21 11:46:08 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_therma
z <gzuckier@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-25 13:43:48 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_therma
motsco_ <motsco_@[EMAI  2008-02-25 18:55:51 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_therma
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-25 18:15:18 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_therma
z <gzuckier@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-25 13:47:19 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_therma
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@[EMA  2008-02-25 23:35:59 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
z <gzuckier@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-25 13:50:01 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-25 18:17:08 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-02-26 04:16:30 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: different direction Coefficient_of_therma
z <gzuckier@[EMAIL PRO  2008-02-26 08:41:40 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
Ray <wantsompain@[EMAI  2008-02-19 22:43:36 
Re: Coolant Vanishing: '95 Civic EX 1.6 - Attn Tegger and Techs
"mjc13<REMOVETHIS  2008-02-20 07:56:57 

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