On Mar 11, 12:11 am, Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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wrote:
> On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:34:27 -0700 (PDT), bi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> >On Mar 8, 10:55 pm, Gordon McGrew <RgEmMcOgVr...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >wrote:
> >> On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:56:44 -0800, road apple <sheldo...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> wrote:
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> >> >In article <vAnAj.56048$pM4.29034@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, Tony Hwang
> >> ><drago...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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> >> >> Bob Douglas wrote:
> >> >> > There is a new invention out there. Thanks to new Technology you
can
> >> >> > improve your milage by up to 50%.
>
> >> >> > And Yes your vehicle CAN drive on gas and water. I know it
sounds crazy,
> >> >> > but it is true.
>
> >> >> > Have a look at what the website below has to say. Many people
are using
> >> >> > this system already.
>
> >> >> > Oil Companies have known this proven Technology for a long time
> >> >> > ... Just to let you know..
>
> >> >> > Don't you want to save on fuel and meantime help the environment
too ?
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> >> >> >http://www.richardsprovenidea.com
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> >> >> Ever heard of water injection?
> >> >I think you mean anti-detonation injection. It was used on big
> >> >aircraft engines for years. When the engine was run at full power
like
> >> >at takeoff, a mixture of alcohol and water was sprayed into the fuel
> >> >air mixture to prevent detonation. When the power was reduced to a
> >> >more cruse setting the injection was turned off. The engine did not
> >> >run on water. I saw a web site claiming 50% better mileage by
> >> >hydrolysis of water into hydrogen and oxygen. It takes power to
brake
> >> >to oxygen and hydrogen bonds. It is at least as much power as you
then
> >> >get from burning it to again make water. No process is 100%
efficient.
>
> >> No, but this one is 100% fraudulent.
>
> >> >I have to laugh at the new super efficient cars. Unless you are
using
> >> >a renewable energy source You are wasting energy. Every time you
> >> >change state, you take a loss. Oil to heat, heat to steam, steam to
> >> >turbine to generator through transmission lines to make hydrogen or
> >> >charge a battery.
>
> >> The super efficient cars on the road today are hybrids which don't
use
> >> any current from the grid. They are demonstrably more efficient than
> >> conventional cars. As for the plug-in models which may or may not
> >> appear in the future, they could easily be more efficient than an ICE
> >> car which has its own set of inefficiencies.
>
> >> > Its like global warming. It's not science it is a
> >> >religion or a cult.
>
> >> Why is it that the scientists all think it is a science and the right
> >> wing media thinks it's a cult? Is this like evolution?
Non-geocentric
> >> universe?
>
> >Electric cars are not practical. Hybrid electric and plug-in hybrid
> >cars are novelties. I fail to see how they will become mainstream,
> >even the day that petroleum runs out.
>
> Mainstream? Like a Ford Explorer was mainstream when it was the best
> selling SUV? Did you hear that Prius outsold Explorer last year?
>
> When gas is threatening to hit $4, how is something that dramatically
> reduces fuel consumption a novelty?
>
Note that the batteries in hybrid cars are charged by the good old
gasoline-powered engines and it takes a loss in the transformation of
engery. Hybrid technology is only about regenerative braking, which
saves just a little energy, at the expense of extra components. And
net gain in energy? Zero!!
You can clearly see that Prius used all the tricks in the book for
fuel efficiency, it has a small engine, very high compression ratio, a
minimal gross weight, and a streamline body. That's how it gets good
mpg. The electric components are not doing any good. They are there as
an excuse for making smaller and more efficient internal combustion
engines, which is very un-American... haha!!!
Plug-in hybrid is inconvenient, but it's honest. Hybrid is not just a
novelty, i would say it's a scam. Manufacturers are leading comsumers
into thinking that somehow the energy recovered from regenerative
braking can do any significant work. Strip the Prius off all of its
hybrid nonsense and it would do even better!
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