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Re: 89 civic

by jim beam <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 28, 2008 at 06:32 PM

loewent wrote:
> As for the brakes, I am thinking rotor replacement with some
> 'cheapies'.... my father in law decided to do me a favour while we
> were resurrecting this car, he thought the car may not pass safety
> inspection with visible rust on the disks... (actually that is pretty
> likely, most shops will try to use any leverage they can to get extra $
> $ for parts outta you) so on the way from his place to the shop (about
> 20km highway drive) he spent the whole time speeding up and braking
> hard.  He said he did this to the point where the brake fluid was so
> hot, the brakes wouldn't work anymore...  

that's less likely to be brake fluid, and much more likely to be cheapo 
after-market pads.  for about five extra bucks, you get honda pads, 
****ms and anti-squeal grease.  oh, and very good fade resistance.



> Wish he woulda just left it
> alone, I would have rather argued with the shop than have to replace
> the rotors.... :(

my experience with aftermarket rotors is ok, so consider those if you're 
saving bucks on a car like this.  don't go for the cheapest chinese 
disks though - i've seen casting errors and cracking.  stock replacement 
brembos from somewhere like summit are just dandy.


> 
> Finally did the oil change and transmission fluid rotation yesterday.
> The 2 year old oil in this car looked great still, I'm glad I ran the
> car for a couple weeks before changing it... gave it a chance to clean
> the engine out some.
> 
> As for the trannie fluid, dropped 2.5 liters out of the trannie, it
> looked pretty good, a little particulate in it to make it less than
> crystal clear.  Also, it looked like regular dexron, especially when I
> compared it to the Honda Z1 I added, the colour is very different...
> red (dex) vs flourescent pink (z1).
> 
> ****fts are much softer now... don't let anyone tell you Honda Z1 is a
> waste of money.

indeed.  basically, the only people that tell you otherwise are those 
with no experience of this!


> 
> I will let the trannie run for a couple weeks now and do another fluid
> 'rotation'... good ole drain and fill....
> 
> Also, this being my first time underneath this car for any extended
> period... I was very impressed to see that there is NO corrosion
> anywhere on the underside of this vehicle.  The outside is rough and
> rusty, underneath it might as well be a brand new car... exhaust
> system included!  Very odd to find a car in this condition at this age
> in the Manitoba Rust Belt....
> 
> t
> 
> 
> 
> On May 6, 10:50 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> loewent wrote:
>>> Body is not great.  Wife hates the car.  She says I didn't 'talk to
>>> her enough about it'.  oh well... lol
>> oh well!
>>
>>
>>
>>> Will be replacing brake rotors, they are warped.
>> before you replace, do this:
>> scrape off the hub face, and the inside of the wheel so they're both
>> free of rust.  smear a little antiseize on both surfaces, then
re-torque
>> the lug nuts in a 2 or more stage process, in the correct sequence,
>> correct torque.
>>
>> every single time i've ever had a honda go in the shop where they
fasten
>> wheels with air tools, the disks "warp".  every time i do the above,
the
>> "warp" magically disappears.  no disk replacements for me.
>>
>>>  If the bleeder bolts
>>> on the calipers aren't too corroded, will do a brake fluid flush as
>>> well.  Brakes are mushy, hope its not the master cylinder.
>> sounds like you need to do the bleeding all the way through.  need to
>> open up those bleed nipples even if you drill and replace.
>>
>>>  if I can't
>>> get the bleeders off, will use the turkey baster method.
>> sometimes you can try bleeding at the banjo bolt, but it's not
>> recommended because it's easy to make things worse, not better.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Will also do the standard fluid changes, oil and tranny specifically.
>>> Coolant is new, PS fluid looks good.  Picked up 4L of Honda Z1
>>> today.... $40!!! geez....
>>> A good sign on this car is the OEM oil filter I found underneath.
>>> Also found an OEM timing belt brand new in the box in the trunk.  I
>>> will take this as a hint that the timing belt needs to be done soon.
>>> Hopefully once I replace the fluids, and drive it for a week or 2,
>>> some of the other tune up items will make themselves more apparent.  I
>>> am thinking plugs, plug wires and dist cap and rotor.
>>> So far so good, and drives like a champ.  Just got the old manitoba
>>> safety inspection done today, it needed some bulbs and a hole in the
>>> muffler welded over.  $80 later I have a 'road worthy' vehicle...
>>> t
>>> On May 4, 10:43 am, jim beam <spamvor...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> loewent wrote:
>>>>> Body is really rough.  Good old winnipeg road salt can be blamed for
>>>>> that.  There is a small hole in one of the rocker panels, we are
>>>>> repairing it.  Rust at the bottom of the doors.
>>>>> I probably won't spend alot of money on it.  I should clarify, I
would
>>>>> be happy if it lasted 6 months, though I am sure it will go for much
>>>>> longer.
>>>>> Not sure on the t-belt, will inspect to see if it looks fresh or
not.
>>>>> May just swap it out anyways, can't be much different than doing it
on
>>>>> my 98.
>>>>> Antifreeze was clean, after sitting 2 yrs, I don't think this one
has
>>>>> a head gasket issue.
>>>>> Literally put a different battery in and the thing started like it
had
>>>>> been used every day, but in reality had been sitting for over 2
years.
>>>>> t
>>>>> On Apr 30, 10:12�am, "Elle" <honda.lion...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>>>> "loewent" <loew...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote
>>>>>>> Well the legacy is over, my 98 civic has met its fate on
>>>>>>> the back end
>>>>>>> of a 93 ranger. �I was the only one in the car, and walked
>>>>>>> away with
>>>>>>> no injuries.
>>>>>>> 10500 in damage, it is beyond repair.
>>>>>>> So I need a car, don't want to spend the whole insurance
>>>>>>> settlement on
>>>>>>> a car.
>>>>>>> Yesterday I picked up an 89 civic 4 door automatic for
>>>>>>> $375. �Body is
>>>>>>> a little rough, but runs like a charm! �276k kms, 171k
>>>>>>> miles.
>>>>>> Original owner, 91 Civic, 203k miles here. I get parts from
>>>>>> 89 Civics at the junkyard all the time for my 91.
>>>>>> Why's the price so low? Just the rough body?
>>>>>> One thing I am on the lookout for with low priced Civics of
>>>>>> this era are failed head gaskets.
>>>>>>> Taking it for a safety tomorrow, hoping to get about 6
>>>>>>> months to a
>>>>>>> year out of er.
>>>>>>> Any pointers from anyone on this vintage of civic?
>>>>>> Check for oil in the spark plug tubes. For a car this old
>>>>>> with this many miles, it's likely the camshaft holder-cyl
>>>>>> head O-rings are leaking. OTOH, if you only want it to last
>>>>>> six months, maybe you can forego this job.
>>>>>> When was the timing belt replaced?
>>>>>> Suspension could probably stand rebuilding, butagain, for
>>>>>> only six months, I think the above is all I'd be really
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>>>> if the body's that bad, i'd just make sure the ignition system was
good,
>>>> the brakes good, and leave it at that.
>>>> there's lots more you can do if you want, main relay, valve lash,
>>>> t-belt, rear trailing arm bu****ngs, but they're not worth it for a
>>>> 6-month gig.  unless you want to have a bit of fun.  if i were going
to
>>>> thrash it, i'd inspect the t-belt and bu****ngs as a priority.- Hide
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 17 Posts in Topic:
89 civic
loewent <loewent@[EMAI  2008-04-29 18:38:36 
Re: 89 civic
motsco_ <motsco_@[EMAI  2008-04-30 08:38:21 
Re: 89 civic
"Elle" <hond  2008-04-30 08:12:20 
Re: 89 civic
bi241@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-01 18:08:49 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-04 08:47:57 
Re: 89 civic
loewent <loewent@[EMAI  2008-05-01 19:16:49 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-04 08:43:30 
Re: 89 civic
loewent <loewent@[EMAI  2008-05-06 20:30:50 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-06 20:50:13 
Re: 89 civic
loewent <loewent@[EMAI  2008-05-11 07:15:01 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-11 17:59:51 
Re: 89 civic
"Elle" <hond  2008-05-11 18:44:39 
Re: 89 civic
loewent <loewent@[EMAI  2008-05-28 06:46:30 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-28 18:32:24 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-28 18:43:49 
Re: 89 civic
loewent <loewent@[EMAI  2008-05-29 12:19:34 
Re: 89 civic
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-05-29 19:04:35 

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