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Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?

by JXStern <JXSternChangeX2R@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Apr 6, 2007 at 01:44 AM

On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:57:13 GMT, John Horner <jthorner@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>JXStern wrote:
>
>> I still wish Honda/Acura would put out some V8 vehicles, but the RL
>> body is probably just a little tight for it, and the cost of building
>> on a new body is too high.  
>
>I doubt we will ever see V-8 powered Hondas.  Honda's view seems to be 
>that the V-6 is all the motor any street car ever will need. 

Well I know, and that's probably true, now that they're finally
getting into turbos, too, if only with the 4 so far here in the US,
.... but I can still wish!

>   Remember 
>that Honda is led first and foremost by engineers, everyone else is 
>sup****ting cast. 

Yeah, I grok marketing, at least a little.  I admit, from an
engineering point of view, there's little need.

> The engineers see a future where more fuel efficiency 
>is needed and don't see any reason to make bigger more fuel thirst 
>engines.  They really don't care that this means ignoring certain market 
>segments.  

Yah.

>Toyota and Honda obviously have different operating 
>principles.  Toyota is focused on the mission to provide a vehicle for 
>every purse and purpose, as Alfred Sloan of GM's great years famously 
>said.  Honda is a rifle shot competitor which takes as it's prime 
>directive "being a company society wants to have exist".

Yes, well, I sup****t and admire Honda for their vision, but even so,
as a skeptic or cynic or something, and this is a marketing and
finance perspective, they simply target the highest-return segments.

But note there have been and are exceptions, the NSX being the
biggest, but I wonder if the S2000 turns a profit, either.  Doubt it.
A V8 would come in under the same heading, only it would probably cost
much more.

If Honda ever decides to open a product branch of $100k++ automobiles,
that would justify the V8.  No straight 5's or V10's, please, it just
ain't natural! And not having a straight six, I can't see them jumping
to a V12.  Just as well.  Unless they want to get into $200k++.
Y'know, something for Paris Hilton to drive to the store to pick up
some cookies, and run out of gas in on the way home.

J.
 




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How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
aniramca@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-03-22 22:33:49 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
"Brian Humphrey"  2007-03-23 07:03:14 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
John Horner <jthorner@  2007-03-26 00:54:57 
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JXStern <JXSternChange  2007-04-03 00:59:57 
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mcbrue <mcbrue@[EMAIL   2007-04-27 22:40:56 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-04-28 07:25:42 
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Max <max@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-04-28 07:30:44 
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"Michael Pardee"  2007-04-28 05:04:58 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-04-28 13:59:47 
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Yoda <yoda@[EMAIL PROT  2007-04-28 22:17:35 
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"norak" <k.n  2007-03-30 20:42:10 
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"stu" <stuar  2007-04-06 10:28:45 
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kitzler <njanus@[EMAIL  2007-05-03 04:54:13 
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"Kikune Mikutamo&quo  2007-05-06 06:18:48 
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e2vincent@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2007-05-06 07:41:55 
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Max <max@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-05-06 11:59:53 
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norak <k.norak@[EMAIL   2007-05-07 22:43:10 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-05-08 07:55:24 
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"Ray O" <rok  2007-05-08 10:34:13 
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JXStern <JXSternChange  2007-04-01 18:50:58 
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John Horner <jthorner@  2007-04-03 03:57:13 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
JXStern <JXSternChange  2007-04-06 01:44:03 
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"kitzler" <n  2007-04-02 07:05:45 
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"mcbrue" <mc  2007-04-02 15:57:31 
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"mcbrue" <mc  2007-04-07 10:08:29 
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Gordon McGrew <gmcgrew  2007-04-08 00:20:51 
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ACAR <getoutanpush@[EM  2007-05-10 21:08:24 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-05-11 08:00:47 
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"Kikune Mikutamo&quo  2007-05-11 21:32:02 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-05-12 00:01:54 
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"Kikune Mikutamo&quo  2007-05-12 21:19:31 
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aniramca@[EMAIL PROTECTED  2007-04-14 18:38:57 
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Max <max@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-04-15 00:04:40 
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"St. John Smythe&quo  2007-04-15 05:56:57 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
Garry Owen <GarryOwen@  2007-04-15 14:12:53 
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"W. Wells" <  2007-04-16 08:54:32 
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Max <max@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-04-16 10:02:22 
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"stu" <stuar  2007-04-27 10:47:04 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-04-27 11:52:38 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
"Ice" <icepl  2007-04-28 07:54:20 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
"Kikune Mikutamo&quo  2007-04-28 19:37:11 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-05-07 19:25:33 
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Max <max@[EMAIL PROTEC  2007-04-27 22:07:44 
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ACAR <dimndsonmywndshl  2007-05-02 05:04:53 
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DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-05-02 21:58:59 
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"David" <drn  2007-05-03 11:18:57 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
DaveW <yzfr1ny@[EMAIL   2007-05-03 20:19:44 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
norak <k.norak@[EMAIL   2007-05-06 10:16:07 
Re: How are these Japanese luxury brands doing these days?
norak <k.norak@[EMAIL   2007-05-06 10:28:26 

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