On Jul 8, 11:35 am, "Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> I guess my point is that this is a Kia. While I would hope this reality
> would change, and soon, at least at this time, few if anybody outside a
Kia
> dealer would have the proper diagnostics.
>
> If you know how to test for a fuel pump (there is a relatively easy [and
> safe] pressure test you can run), that you can check. Like it or not,
most
> of the rest of the Sedona is not designed to be fixed by anyone but a
> trained Kia dealer.
>
> Regarding my other symptom, the "spark box," there must be a way you
would
> diagnose any other brand if the spark box went out. I still believe it
is
> either spark box or fuel pump. Hope you can find a way.
>
> <tkay...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
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> > On Jul 7, 2:45 pm, "Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> Thanks for the update. If the alternator were to be the problem, it
> >> wouldn't affect starting once you get the battery re-charged. So
even if
> >> that is A problem I don't believe it is THE problem.
>
> >> My next two thoughts (I'm genuinely grateful it isn't that blasted
timing
> >> belt - and they have not had a reputation of breaking even at 83,000
> >> miles
> >> +) is either a "spark box," or as you pointed out, the fuel pump.
>
> >> This post would take way too long to give you some tips on how to
check
> >> those two items. I will just say that fuel pumps are always an
unknown,
> >> but
> >> the Sedona doesn't have a long history of them going bad. It DOES
have a
> >> long history of electrical gremlins that like to hide from being
> >> detected.
> >> So I'm betting spark box.
>
> >> Again, any mechanic can check these out for you, and in fairly short
> >> order.
> >> If it is one of these two, the repair won't be cheap (though it will
be
> >> far,
> >> far less than an engine repair following a broken timing belt). In
fact,
> >> it
> >> will be difficult to find parts outside of the Kia dealer.
>
> >> Hope you find the problem soon.
>
> >> <tkay...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> >> > On Jul 6, 12:04 pm, "Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwen...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> >> >> I hope I'm wrong, and you won't like me at all if I'm right.
>
> >> >> It sounds like the timing belt to me. If it is, you had better
plan
> >> >> on
> >> >> getting a different vehicle, because a broken timing belt has
surely
> >> >> messed
> >> >> up that engine big time.
>
> >> >> Only way to know is to have it towed somewhere and have them look
at
> >> >> it.
> >> >> It
> >> >> won't take long for them to find out and let you know.
>
> >> >> That is the bane of having vehicles with timing belts. The newer
> >> >> Sedona
> >> >> and
> >> >> similar Hyundai Entourage (2006 and newer) have a timing chain.
>
> >> >> <tkay...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> >> >> >I have a 2003 Sedona w/ 82,000 miles. It started fine and I drove
it
> >> >> > about three blocks in the morning. Next time we drove it started
> >> >> > fine
> >> >> > and then suddenly the engine died w/o notice.
> >> >> > The alternator was replaced at about 45,000 miles due to a
> >> >> > manufactuars fault on the original alternator. I am thinking it
is
> >> >> > an
> >> >> > alternator problem again because the battery has drained fully
now
> >> >> > that it has been sitting. However we charged the battery and
jumped
> >> >> > it, it will try to turn over but wont ignite. All of the belts
apear
> >> >> > to be intact, it has had religous oil changes.
> >> >> > Could this be the alternator or possibly spark plugs, fual pump
or
> >> >> > another problem.
> >> >> > Any information you can give would be greatly appreciated!
>
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> >> > Actually my husband removed the engine cover & checked the timing
belt
> >> > and it is still intact.
> >> > That was our first concern as I know it can damage the valves.
> >> > So that beibg said do yout think it could be the alternator and
what
> >> > would be the best way to check?- Hide quoted text -
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> > Thank you all for your help. However PHILO I dont think we want any
> > third degree burns or skin graphs.
> > Does anyone know if you can get a dignostic code when the vehicle isnt
> > running?
> > My thought is to have the battery tested first and then get a
> > dignostic code reader to see if it is throwing any codes.
> > We have an online shop manual to see what the codes mean so that may
> > tell us our problem.
> > By the way we are not total idiots that have never done work on cras
> > and are trying to fix this alone. My dad has quite a bit of experience
> > including rebuilding an engine. It is just we have no experience w/ a
> > Kia and no there is no Haynes manual for this vehiccle. So getting
> > input from others who have experience w/ this vehicle is very helpful.
> > Plus my dad is busy and wants us to figure out what the problem is
> > then he will come help fix/install any parts.
> > All input is appreciate! Thanks!- Hide quoted text -
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Well the Sedona is running now, we figured it out. Found my owners
manual so we were able to see which fuses were for the fual and
starting system and it happened to have a blown Fuse for the fual
injection system.
Thank goodness that was a cheap fix!
Thanks again all for your input w/o it we would not have narrowed it
down to most likely being a fual problem.
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