Re: New technology to stop a war

"Bob P" <ctcboater@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> ...
> >>
> >>To understand how these water-fuel systems work, it helps to begin by
> >>realizing that ordinary water is actually a "battery" containing vast
> >>amounts of energy. Water is H2O - two parts hydrogen combined with one
> >  part oxygen. And, as President Bush says, hydrogen is an excellent
fuel.
> >>
> >>The amount of energy in the water molecule is thus vast, and has
> > absolutely nothing to do with the amount of energy it takes to break
down that
> >>molecule. This is an extremely im****tant point, as so many people -
even
> >>scientists - are unclear on this concept. And yet if we can find an
> >>economical means to break down the water molecule, our energy problems
are
> >>over.
> More B.S.
> ...
>
> Oxygen and Hydrogen combined as water are both at close to their lowest
> energy state.  That's why water is so stable.  The energy it takes to
> separate water into it's components just coincidentally happens to be
> the energy generated by hydrogen burning or combining in a fuel cell.
>
> This is High-school-chemistry-level stuff.
>
> In other words, the only separating process that's valid here is the
> separation of a sucker's money from the sucker.


This is the problem with news groups after a few days the first post is
gone
so people coming in don't know the full thread.
I stated at the start use solar power in the worlds hottest countries to
convert water into hydrogen & oxygen weather you can get more out of water
than the energy you put in doesn't really matter so much.
The fact that someone has got close enough to even run a car or an engine
for 20 minutes says that they are getting quite close maybe 80-90 back for
what they put in. It could be that the energy in the car battery was what
was being used to keep the conversion running so when the battery was flat
the car would stop because the gas had stopped without experimentation who
knows.

Or should the world just burn it's self out and give up like many of you
seem to want?

Storing electricity in battery form and sending it around the world is not
economical and cabling the electrical power would also be un-economical.
But
Brown gas stored in tanks that is also capable of propelling the ****p
carrying the gas could be.

I am posting here asking these questions to people who I hope know a bit
about solar power electricity, are you people saying that solar costs too
much for what you get out of it and that it is just a toy?

If we are determined to stop using oil to help the planet then there are
going to be a lot of sad Muslims out there that will want to move to the
USA
and Europe because they will have no income.
Something has to be found that is as cheap or cheaper than oil and
preferably where third world countries will gain.
In the UK we have wind farms in many locations in fact I have one within 5
miles of my house we have also been considering wave power, I imagine you
have not got to that point yet in the USA.

It would seem that salt water is good for making Brown gas so as the sea
covers 3/4 of the planet and is all set to cover more we should have no
problem finding some.
Brown gas may not be good in conventional internal combustion engines but
should be fine in gas turbine engines on ****ps and power stations, it may
also be good in plane jet engines.
Running an engine on Brown gas also helps the planet apparently so power
stations would still be able to provide electricity for the USA to polish
it's shoes in the morning and be helping the environment.:-)

Hydrogen gas still provides the best lift in air ****ps better than helium
and the people that still build air ****ps have stated that if they where
to
build hydrogen air ****ps today they would be much safer.

Nigel.