Re: Water powered cars exist!

"Gogarty" <Gogarty@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> karlwtz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>
>>
>>They are called Hydrogen Powered. Still a stupid idea.  Electric Cars
work
>>better.  Invest in batteries.
>>
>>
> Electric vehicles were in wide use in the early 20th Century, mostly for
> commercial vans. Then as now the batteries take up too much space,
weight 
> too
> much and are too short-lived for the elctric vehicle to be a viable
> alternative to the internal combusion engine. Period. The thermodynamics

> are
> unyielding.

No. You are so wrong.  Lithium ion, lithium polymer, and batteries like
the 
Nanosafe batteries in
Phoenix Motor cars electric cars work fine.  The technology is moving
along 
quite well.


>The hydrogen vehicle is an internal combustion driven vehicle. It

Actually most "hydrogen" cars are NOT internal combustion engines
(although 
you can build them)
they for the most part are fuel cell vehicles, convert hydrogen into 
electricity.  I have seen them and
they have many technical problems.  And then you have infrastructure 
problems with lack of fueling stations.
We do have alot of plug-in electrical outlets though!

> is not economic in any real world contest because the fuel costs too
much 
> to
> produce, too much to trans****t and too much to store. A gallon of
gasoline 
> or
> diesel or peanut oil weighs 7 to 8 pounds, for the sake of argument. It 
> will
> get you twenty miles in a heavy vehicle, these days over forty in a well
> designed one. To get the same range with hydrogen you have to carry the 
> same
> weight of fuel. How much pressure does it take to compress seven pounds
of
> hydrogen into the space of one gallon? You sure you want to be riding 
> around
> with that bomb at your back?

NOPE.  Don't like hydrogen cars.  Give me a battery and a plug!
>
> Some years ago there was a ig push for steam cars. They did exist, once.

> They
> are not efficient (external combustion) and who wants to be scalded by 
> high
> pressure steam in the event of an accident? We don't hear much about
steam
> cars anymore.
>