Thank you for your thoughtfull and thorough reviews! This sort of
information is why we come to these usegoups. My own history with
Lexus covers three cars from Lexus over the years since 1993. I had
always gone up in quality of cars purchased and when I got the first
Lexus ES300 it was great! Then I moved to Mercedes and my wife stayed
with another ES. After my second Mercedes, an S class, I moved back to
a 2006 LS430 ultra. To keep it very short, I find the car sorely
lacking. And the lack is in the engineering details that distinguish
the true luxury car from the near luxury car. It would not be
difficult for the Lexus engineers to sit and think how to make the
"goodies" truly good! Regarding my car, I could go on for pages
describing the minor changes that would vastly improve the car and end
many great frustrations. On the other hand, certainly the
dependability of the Lexus (ignore the radar, bumper sensors, and air
suspensors) is vastly superior to the Mercedes. Adding it all up - the
Lexus has many, many, many problems which prevent it from being
considered a true Luxury car. And the amazing thing is that I have
never been contacted by their vaunted QC system to get my opinion!
This is a true shortcoming of such a system - ignoring the unhappy
customer who can contribute many ideas for improvement. And I must
warn DanO and Muzzy that you are likely to be rather strongly attacked
by the "inhabitants" of this news group. Many of them take a negative
view of the cars as a personal attack on them - perhaps they are
employees of Lexus. Maybe we won't hear from them, but feel free to
ignore them if we do. And again, thank you for your reports. I have
had a few experiences with my own nav system which lead me to view it
as being strongly capable of improvement, but I have no other
experience to judge it against.


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