"Lurfys Maw" <invalid@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:33:50 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Lurfys Maw" <invalid@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
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>>> On Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:12:14 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Was the oil on the side of the car and not underneath?
>>>
>>> What the tow truck driver showed me was on the side of the car on the
>>> narrow strip of body sheet metal underneath the door just behind the
>>> right front wheel. There were 6-8 "streaks" similar in shape to the
>>> streamlets of water on a wind****eld when the is moving.
>>>
>>>>Oil leaking from a
>>>>powertrain component is more likely to be on the undercarriage than on
>>>>the
>>>>side of the car, so I would imagine that oil on the side came from an
>>>>external source. What kind of oil did you see? Was it automatic
>>>>transmission fluid?
>>>
>>> I didn't touch them myself. He wiped a finger across them and to show
>>> me that they were wet. If I recall correctly, then were angled up and
>>> back at about a 30-40 degree angle (from 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock).
>>
>>That sounds more like something kicked up from the front tires than from
>>the
>>transmission.
>
> That's what it looked like to me, but the guy showed it to me. But
> then, he was just the tow truck driver. Nice guy, probably just trying
> to be helpful, but not a mechanic.
>
>>>>The transmission is located under the hood to the left (from the
>>>>prospective
>>>>of the passenger compartment ) of the engine.
>>>
>>> That would make it difficult to leak on the right (opposite) side, no?
>>
>>That would make it very difficult to leak on the opposite side.
>>>
>>>>Transmissions are pretty complicated, and dealers have gone to
complete
>>>>replacement rather than try to repair it with unacceptable results.
>>>
>>> I wasn't trying to get them to repair vs replace it. I just wanted to
>>> know what broke.
>>>
>>> Can this type of failure be caused by incorrect maintenance, like not
>>> tightening an oil plug after changing the oil?
>>
>>If you are talking about the engine oil plug, the answer is no. If the
>>engine lost all of its oil, the engine would probably seize, but the
>>transmission would not be affected.
>>
>>If you had a transmission service and you are talking about the
>>transmission
>>fluid, the answer is possibly, but you would see fresh red automatic
>>transmission fluid (ATF) under the front of the vehicle and the
>>transmission
>>fluid level would be low or empty.
>
> I think the last transmission service was on 3/15/07. The car had a
> D-level service. That's the most comprehensive service done every
> 60,000 miles.
>
>>You said that the dealer****p said that
>>the fluid level was full.
>
> I think they said that it was not empty.
>
>>There are a couple of other possibilities if you had a relatively recent
>>transmission service. If you had the transmission flushed for the first
>>time at over 60,000 miles, it is possible that the flush dislodged
sludge
>>that clogged one of the valves.
>
> The D service was over a year ago. Would it take this long to cause a
> problem?
If a service causes a transmisison problem, the symptoms usually show up
immediately or within a month. The same is true if the wrong ATF is used.
>
>>Another possibility is that the wrong ATF
>>was used.
>
> Again, I would think that would show up sooner than 13 months. No?
>
>>>>There
>>>>are some basic tests like pressure tests and solenoid checks that they
>>>>should do before replacing the transmission. If the transmission is
not
>>>>producing the correct pressure, then it probably needs replacement.
>>>
>>> I assume they did or will do whatever tests they need to. We also have
>>> a '99 LS 400, also CPO. Both have had all service at this dealer****p.
>>> The service is not cheap, but we have had no provlems.
>>>
>>>>What is
>>>>the condition of the automatic transmission fluid (ATF)?
>>>
>>> I don't know. It had an A-level service in February.
>>
>>I'm not sure what you mean by "A-level" service, but if that is an oil
>>change and tire rotation, then the likelihood that the service caused
the
>>transmission failure is very very slim. I have heard of quick oil
change
>>places draining the transmission fluid by mistake, but the car won't
even
>>make it out of the service bay if that were th4e case.\
>
> Yes, an A service is basically lube and oil. It was done by the
> dealer****p.
If that is the case, it is highly unlikely that anything the dealer did
caused the problem.
--
Ray O
(correct punctuation to reply)


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