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Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?

by "pearl" <tea@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Mar 28, 2008 at 05:34 PM

"Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:13uq7a7d79jc59d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
> > Rudy Canoza wrote:
> >> pearl wrote:
> >>
> >>> "Rudy Canoza" <pipes@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
> >>> news:13upuhi772mq121@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>>
> >>>> pearl wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>> 'Although Albert Einstein professed atheism,
> >>>>
> >>>> Bull****.  "God does not play dice with the universe."
> >>>> -- A. Einstein
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> '"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest

'"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always
been an atheist. "
- Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945, responding to
a
rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein to convert from atheism;
quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2
...'
http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/Was-Einstein-an-Atheist-.htm

> >> Einstein was a Jew.
> >>
> >> You stupid skank.
> >
> > No....he was an atheist, you sweet little tart.
>
> He was a Jew.

"I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God
is a childlike one. You may call me an agnostic, but I do not share the
crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due
to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious
indoctrination
received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the
weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own
being." - Albert Einstein, letter to Guy H. Raner Jr., Sept. 28, 1949,
quoted by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic, Vol. 5, No. 2
...'
http://atheism.about.com/od/einsteingodreligion/tp/Was-Einstein-an-Atheist-.htm

'According to Isaacson, at the age of 12, Einstein's exposure to science
produced a sudden reaction against religion, just at the time that he
would
have been studying for his Bar Mitzvah.  This tension between what is
demonstrably true through science and what is only understandable
through faith is one of the great dilemmas of human consciousness.

The book notes that, while as a child Einstein had embraced the Jewish
religion, at this juncture he turned decidedly away from faith and, in
particular, ritual:

"But at the time, his leap away from faith was a radical one. 'Through the
reading of popular scientific books, I soon reached the conviction that
much in the stories of the Bible could not be true.The consequence was
a positively fanatic orgy of freethinking coupled with the impression that
youth is intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a
cru****ng impression.' ... As a result, Einstein avoided religious rituals
for
the rest of his life. . . . Einstein's rebellion against religious dogma
had a
profound effect on his general outlook toward received wisdom.  It
inculcated an allergic reaction against all forms of dogma and authority,
which was to affect both his politics and his science."

Einstein would formally renounce Judaism in 1896, at the age of 17,
but his exposure to "virulent anti-Semitism in the 1920's" would lead
Einstein "to begin to reconnect with his Jewish identity":

The year before Einstein died, he wrote to a friend:

"At that time I would not even have understood what leaving Judaism
could possibly mean. . . . But I was fully aware of my Jewish origin,
even though the full significance of belonging to Jewry was not realized
by me until later."

According to Isaacson, Einstein would later come close to embracing
the following position on faith, written by Aaron Bernstein in a series of
volumes titled People's Books on Natural Science:

"The religious inclination lies in the dim consciousness that dwells in
humans that all nature, including the humans in it, is in no way an
accidental game, but a work of lawfulness, that there is a fundamental
cause of all existence."
...'
http://www.pascalsview.com/pascalsview/2007/06/einstein_on_ort.html
 




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Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 16:14:30 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 09:31:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
"pearl" <tea  2008-03-28 17:34:37 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 10:46:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-28 14:30:12 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 15:01:05 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 15:04:16 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 22:19:34 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 15:26:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-31 15:31:51 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-31 23:47:43 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-01 09:11:11 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 09:32:26 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-01 09:41:26 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 09:46:51 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
duke <fuckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-04-01 12:23:49 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 12:40:08 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Joseph Littleshoes <jp  2008-04-01 12:52:11 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 12:58:33 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
peter <pounder@[EMAIL   2008-04-01 20:42:03 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Black-Phoenix-Night <X  2008-04-02 14:38:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-08 20:29:28 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 12:41:53 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 10:21:54 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-31 14:03:24 

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