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Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?

by dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mar 31, 2008 at 02:03 PM

On Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:19:34 GMT, captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> Goo wrote:
>> captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>> 
>>> Goo wrote:
>>>
>>>> captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Goo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> pearl wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Goo wrote in message 
>>>>>>> news:13upuhi772mq121@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> pearl wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Although Albert Einstein professed atheism,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bull****.  "God does not play dice with the universe."
>>>>>>>> -- A. Einstein
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> '"From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Einstein was a Jew.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You stupid skank.
>>>>>
>>>>> No....he was an atheist, you sweet little tart. 
>>>>
>>>> He was a Jew.
>>>
>>> So what is a Jew that doesn't believe in God called?
>> 
>> Einstein was not an atheist.  He was not "a Jew that [sic] doesn't 
>> believe in God."
>
>According to him, he was. 
_________________________________________________________
It may seem logical, in retrospect, that a combination of awe and
rebellion 
made Einstein exceptional as a scientist. But what is less well known is
that 
those two traits also combined to shape his spiritual journey and
determine 
the nature of his faith. The rebellion part comes in at the beginning of
his life: 
he rejected at first his parents' secularism and later the concepts of
religious 
ritual and of a personal God who intercedes in the daily workings of the
world. 
But the awe part comes in his 50s when he settled into a deism based on
what 
he called the "spirit manifest in the laws of the universe" and a sincere
belief 
in a "God who reveals Himself in the harmony of all that exists."
.. . .
Einstein's parents, on the other hand, were "entirely irreligious." They
did not 
keep kosher or attend synagogue, and his father Hermann referred to Jewish

rituals as "ancient superstitions," according to a relative.
.. . .
Despite his parents' secularism, or perhaps because of it, Einstein rather
suddenly 
developed a passionate zeal for Judaism. "He was so fervent in his
feelings that, 
on his own, he observed Jewish religious strictures in every detail," his
sister recalled. 
He ate no ****k, kept kosher and obeyed the strictures of the Sabbath. He
even 
composed his own hymns, which he sang to himself as he walked home from
school.
.. . .
Einstein's exposure to science and math produced a sudden transformation
at age 12, 
just as he would have been readying for a bar mitzvah. He suddenly gave up
Judaism. 
That decision does not appear to have been drawn from Bernstein's books
because 
the author made clear he saw no contradiction between science and
religion. As he 
put it, "The religious inclination lies in the dim consciousness that
dwells in humans that 
all nature, including the humans in it, is in no way an accidental game,
but a work of 
lawfulness that there is a fundamental cause of all existence."

Einstein would later come close to these sentiments. But at the time, his
leap away from 
faith was a radical one. "Through the reading of popular scientific books,
I soon reached 
the conviction that much in the stories of the Bible could not be true.
The consequence 
was a positively fanatic orgy of free thinking coupled with the impression
that youth is 
intentionally being deceived by the state through lies; it was a cru****ng
impression." 
.. . .
Shortly after his 50th birthday, Einstein also gave a remarkable interview
in which he was 
more revealing than he had ever been about his religious sensibility. It
was with George 
Sylvester Viereck
.. . .
You accept the historical existence of Jesus? "Unquestionably! No one can
read the 
Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality
pulsates in every 
word. No myth is filled with such life."

Do you believe in God? "I'm not an atheist. I don't think I can call
myself a pantheist. 
The problem involved is too vast for our limited minds. We are in the
position of a little 
child entering a huge library filled with books in many languages. The
child knows 
someone must have written those books. It does not know how. It does not
understand 
the languages in which they are written. The child dimly suspects a
mysterious order in 
the arrangement of the books but doesn't know what it is. That, it seems
to me, is the 
attitude of even the most intelligent human being toward God. We see the
universe 
marvelously arranged and obeying certain laws but only dimly understand
these laws." 
.. . .
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1607298,00.html
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Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 16:14:30 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 09:31:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
"pearl" <tea  2008-03-28 17:34:37 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 10:46:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Christopher A. Lee <ca  2008-03-28 14:30:12 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 15:01:05 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 15:04:16 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-28 22:19:34 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-28 15:26:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-03-31 15:31:51 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-03-31 23:47:43 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-01 09:11:11 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 09:32:26 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-01 09:41:26 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 09:46:51 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
duke <fuckgumbo32@[EMA  2008-04-01 12:23:49 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 12:40:08 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Joseph Littleshoes <jp  2008-04-01 12:52:11 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 12:58:33 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
peter <pounder@[EMAIL   2008-04-01 20:42:03 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Black-Phoenix-Night <X  2008-04-02 14:38:02 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
captdan@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  2008-04-08 20:29:28 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 12:41:53 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
Rudy Canoza <pipes@[EM  2008-04-01 10:21:54 
Re: Theistic Doubletalk... What Will You Cop To?
dh@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-03-31 14:03:24 

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