E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>On 1/2/08 2:16 PM, in article
>321f8f2f-c022-4838-a24a-1f8265ead575@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"codifus"
><codifus@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
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>> On Dec 27 2007, 2:27 pm, E Meyer <epmeye...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>> On 12/27/07 12:51 PM, in article 4773f419$0$13889$607ed...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Codifus"
>>>
>>> <codi...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>>> E Meyer wrote:
>>>>> It seems like the simplest solution would be to get them to stick
the
>>>>> sniffer in the tail pipe and do the inspection the way they do it
for
>>>>> pre-96
>>>>> cars. I wonder if they'll do it?
>>>
>>>> I know this is a bit late but that sniffer is connected to a $100K
>>>> machines which auto garages hated putting up the money for and
getting
>>>> pitiful return on investment. They much much prefer NOT using the
sniffer.
>>>
>>>> CD
>>>
>>> Around here, if they are licensed to do the inspections, they have to
have
>>> it, so why not use it?
>>
>> Because the new standard is much much cheaper, quicker, cleaner, you
>> name it. All you need is a PC, software, and an OBDII reader. Scan and
>> done. No reading the exhaust when the O2 sensor in the car has been
>> doing it for you anyway. No expensive dyno equipment either. The old
>> system was ridiculous. I don't even own a garage but I felt sorry for
>> the garage owners having to deal with that for inspections.
>>
>> CD
>
>The dyno equipment is still there and still required. It hasn't gone
away.
>All inspection stations around here that do emissions testing still have
to
>have the sniffer/treadmill setup because all pre-OBDII cars still require
>annual testing (at least in this county, and AFIK, all the counties
>surrounding major metro areas.)
>
>The OP couldn't get his car inspected (in this same state, as was later
>revealed) using the OBDII way because all the sensors did not show
"ready".
>My comment was simply that, since the testing station already has the
>sniffer equipment, why not ask them to do it the old way.
>
>I have both pre and post-OBDII cars. It takes just as long to get them
>inspected using the OBD-II connector as it does with the exhaust sniffer.
>In fact they park the OBDII cars on the treadmill when they plug it in.
The
>paperwork is the actual time waster.
>
>I think this will all change soon. The state has just come up with a
>program to offer owners of cars older than 10 years $3500 to put them
>through the crusher if they buy a car 2 years old or newer.
>
In Arizona if the check engine light is on its an automatic failure -
only vehicles pre OBD get the sniffer test (because post ODB cars run
so clean it can not be sniffed).


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