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Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?

by "Tom Yakulis" <yakulis@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Feb 27, 2008 at 05:31 AM

Wouldn't these issues have appeared before 120K miles ?


"David Geesaman" <dgeesamanNOSPAM@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
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> codifus wrote:
>> On Feb 25, 7:33 pm, David Geesaman <dgeesamanNOS...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>> wrote:
>>> Tom Yakulis wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> I drive a '99 Se 5speed that just hit 120K miles. I was wondering
what 
>>>> parts
>>>> typically fail and should be replaced around this mileage.
>>>> Thanks
>>> First, do the 60k maintenance again:
>>> - drain/replace coolant
>>> - new belts
>>> - new OEM platinum plugs
>>> - new fuel filter
>>> - replace gear oil (use Amsoil MTG or Redline MT-90 - both are
synthetic
>>> GL-4 75w-90 oils)
>>>
>>> Definitely get your transmission inspected.  The 4th gen 5 speeds are
>>> notorious for having problems with differential carrier bearing wear. 
A
>>> tranny shop can find it pretty quickly (they just grab the driver side
>>> axle end and see if the diff moves within the tranny housing). 
Nissan's
>>> original transmission assembly did not ****m most of these trannys
>>> properly, and depending on how badly the bearings were set is how long
>>> the transmission will last.  If your bearings are wearing too fast you
>>> want to catch it early, take it to a manual transmission specialist,
and
>>> have them re-****m the diff during the rebuild.  If you procrastinate
the
>>> gears/shafts will run misaligned and develop uneven wear and you'll
>>> stand much greater risk of sudden failure.  I say all this about the 5
>>> speed trannys because I've rebuild over a dozen of them and there are
>>> more every day.
>>>
>>> There are other things like oil seals and valve cover gaskets that can
>>> develop minor oil leaks.  Just keep an eye out for that - many maximas
>>> go a much longer time than 120k without these leaks and since the
leaks
>>> are generally harmless there is no need IMHO to get preventive about
it.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> I've experienced this 1st hand in my 98 5-speed. The tranny didn't
>> fail, just got incredibly noisy. When I replaced the clutch at 140K
>> miles, I also replaced the differential bearings and all was good.
>>
>> Was the issue fixed in the 2000 thru 2001 5-speed manual trannies? I
>> remember the Nissan brochure boasting stronger gears in the manual
>> tranny compared to the 99s and below.
>>
>>
>> CD
>
> I only know of one difference between the 95-99 gears and the 00-01 5 
> speed gears: slightly modified oil grooving.  Perhaps they improved the 
> material a little bit, I dunno.  The shafts are definitely the same.  I 
> haven't rebuilt enough of the 00-01's to determine if they were built 
> properly, but the couple I've done were correct.
>
> One well-regarded internet source found that when he redid his diff 
> bearings that he needed a different set of bearing ****ms.  Assuming his 
> housings hadn't warped, his postulation that the factory set endplay
wrong 
> is a valid one.
>
> But I think it goes beyond that.  My experience rebuilding 95-99 5
speeds 
> has resulted in a large pile of diff bearing ****ms in just 3 sizes. 
I've 
> never found any other ****m size in a stock tranny, although when I
rebuild 
> them the ****m sizes I use end up all over the tolerance range.  (There
are 
> over a dozen ****m sizes).  My hypothesis, which will never be known for 
> sure, is that the original tranny builders did not have the full range
of 
> ****m sizes onhand to accurately set the diff bearing endplay.  So if you

> were lucky your tranny required the ****m sizes that were on hand.  If
you 
> were unlucky your tranny needed a much different ****m size and it left
the 
> factory with incorrect endplay setting, doomed to die a premature death.

> Some trannys died within the factory warranty, but most lasted just long

> enough to die out of warranty and within the car's typical life.
>
> Most rebuilders will just re-use the ****ms and not remeasure.  They
aren't 
> aware of this endplay setting problem, because most trannys are built 
> right in the first place.  Most customers don't want to wait the extra 
> days to get the correct ****m size from Nissan, and it will easily
outlast 
> the 6 month or 12 month rebuilders warranty.  I always measure until I'm

> confident I have the endplay within .001", and use the exact recommended

> ****m size.  To avoid delays I keep almost every ****m size on hand. 
(this 
> is only viable because I rebuild 95-01 trannys almost exclusively)
>
> Dave
>
 




 12 Posts in Topic:
'99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
"Tom Yakulis" &  2008-02-24 20:48:17 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-02-25 16:09:45 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
David Geesaman <dgeesa  2008-02-25 19:33:16 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-02-26 16:34:24 
Thanks for the Ideas
"Tom Yakulis" &  2008-02-27 00:49:36 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
David Geesaman <dgeesa  2008-02-26 21:40:41 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
"Tom Yakulis" &  2008-02-27 05:31:38 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
David Geesaman <dgeesa  2008-02-27 05:29:33 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
"Tom Yakulis" &  2008-02-29 01:19:19 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
David Geesaman <dgeesa  2008-02-28 21:32:17 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
"Devils Advocate&quo  2008-03-03 23:50:41 
Re: '99 Max Se 5sp with 120K miles,what to replace?
codifus <codifus@[EMAI  2008-03-04 07:02:42 

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