On Fri, 09 May 2008 14:14:59 GMT, E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>On 5/8/08 9:47 PM, in article 4823bb3a$0$4102$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>"aspasia" <aspasia> wrote:
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>> On Fri, 02 May 2008 23:35:16 GMT, George <not.real@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> wrote:
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>>> In article <47ffbe1f$0$6129$4c368faf@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, aspasia wrote:
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>>>> I lost one of the two programmed keys that came with the car.
>>>>
>>>> The dealer was quoting $100 or more to create another!
>>>> Can that be?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions how to get this done more reasonably?
>>>>
>>>> (Incidentally, is there any reason they charge so much?
>>>> Except sheer exploitation <g>)
>>>>
>>>> Aspasia
>>>
>>> No, exploitation covers it nicely.
>>>
>>> There *is* a method to allow the car to run with a non-chipped
>>> (regular/cheap) key, but it involves disabling the immobilizer
security
>>> system. Still want to do it?
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>> ?? That's interesting. I DO have a second key and it does work, but
>> of course I have to lock-unlock the doors manually.
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>> Car runs with a "chipped" key that has an electronic door opener-
>> closer on the key chain.
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>> It also also runs w/ that second key that has no electronic door
>> opener.
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>> Does that mean that second key is also chipped?
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>> Does that also mean that the immobilizer security system is NOT
>> disabled?
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>> (I don't even know what an "immobilizer security system"
>> is. I tried to look it up, and got this:
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>> ==============
>> A vehicle immobilizer disables a vehicle's system after receiving from
>> a vehicle security system two immobilizer control signals in
>> predetermined states. The vehicle's system is a necessary system for
>> the vehicle to run, for example, an ignition system or an engine
>> computer, so that the vehicle is immobilized when the necessary system
>> is disabled. The immobilizer includes switching and self-biasing
>> circuits that bypass the security system. Bypassing the security
>> system reduces the likelihood of immobilizing a running vehicle
>> because of a security system malfunction.
>> ===============
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>> Can you restate this in language that my tiny mind could grasp?<g>
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>> TIA
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>If it will start the car and other duplicate keys will not start the car,
>the second key is chipped. The immobilizer is not disabled.
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>The key fob with the door unlock buttons has nothing to do with the
>immobilizer. It just works the door locks & rolls down the front
windows.
>You can get another one of those on ebay pretty cheap and program your
car
>to recognize it.
Oh, good! I didn't realize they could be had outside the dealer
(I lost the second key fob a while ago) If I do find one on ebay
or elsewhere, are there instructions online (or somewhere!) how
to program car to recognize it?
TIA
Aspasia


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