Re: Vehicle Recalls Up 25% in 2007

Picasso wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>> Art wrote:
>>> I don't feel recalls should be considered negatively.  I think 
>>> Consumer Re****ts should subtract them out before calculating repair 
>>> rates.  The end result would be that car manufacturers would tend to 
>>> do more free recall repairs to keep their repair rate better than 
>>> average and consumers would pay less for repairs.
>>
>> What were you talking about? It is much easier to follow a thread if 
>> you in-line post rather than top post.
>>
>> I don't agree. It's still a pain to get a car or truck to the dealer. 
>> Neither the dealer nor the car maker pay for fuel, wear and tear or 
>> time lost while taking the vehicle in for repairs. A separate line for 
>> in-warranty repairs (including recalls0 might be appropriate, but they 
>> should not be ignored.
> 
> Inline is ok on one response, but gets confusing in sequential posts.

Thanks for showing us bottom posting isn't very easy to follow either.

> I believe they should be left in for repairs.  It is defiantly a 
> considerable waste of time for any work done in a shop, be it a wiper 
> blade or a transmission job, you're going to waste the same amount of 
> time dropping it off and picking it up... maybe even more on the recall 
> because you may choose to wait for it.  These certainly are a sort of 
> "repair" -- the mfg's should build these things properly the first time 
> (now i know this won't happen) but left in, it is still a measure of how

> the vehicle is built.

Yet it is nearly impossible to avoid recalls and service problems in 
vehicles. There is no way to predict with 100% certainty that something 
will perform the way you think it will perform. Plus, not everything is 
made by the automakers themselves. If a subcontractor makes a mistake, 
that could lead to a recall.

> If you were buying medical equipment and looked at the tsb's... would 
> you buy brand A (lets say a chevy cavalier with 321tsbs & numerous 
> recalls) or a brand B (lets say a crown victoria with 100tsbs and a 
> couple recalls... ;P

Depends. It could be that the recalls for one brand were a lot of minor 
recalls and the other recalls were for problems leading to, how shall I 
put it?, fatal misadventures. I would look at the types of recalls as
well.

Jeff