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Re: Consider buying American!

by hsg@[EMAIL PROTECTED] Feb 17, 2008 at 09:51 PM

On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 10:54:54 -0800, jim beam <spamvortex@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
wrote:

>Jeff wrote:
>> Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 05:37:57 -0800, buydomestic wrote:
>>>
>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23124844/
>>>>
>>>> GM just made it known that they lost 39 billion in 2007, the largest 
>>>> ever
>>>> annual loss for a US automaker.
>>>>
>>>> The big three are losing money, and if we don't give them the sup****t

>>>> they
>>>> need, they are going to go under.  Consider buying an American car.
>>>>
>>>> Here are some American models recommended in the 2007 Consumer
Re****ts
>>>> Annual Auto Issue:
>>>
>>> There are a couple problems with American car manufacturers in
general,
>>> and GM in particular:
>>>
>>> The workforce gets bored easily. Bored workers do fair work. 
>> 
>> How does this affect GM workers more than other workers? Or Ford and 
>> Chrysler workers more than the workers for the foreign automakers?
>> 
>>> The Management is more interested in making shareholders happy than
>>> customers.
>> 
>> Chrysler does not have shareholders.
>> 
>>> And the biggest failure of the system: even if your people are
building
>>> the cars the best they can, the car is no better than the quality of
the
>>> parts that go into it.
>> 
>> This is true for US-made Hondas and Toyotas, too.
>
>the difference is the spec the auto maker writes for the parts.  honda 
>and toyota specs are very high.  domestic specs are way lower.
>

Well that's obvious seeing the crap coming from Detroit nowadays.
>
>
>> 
>>> This is where the Japanese really kick ass. The parts are far more
>>> reliable than their American counterparts. Remember what happened when
GM
>>> sytarted making Corollas (Geo Prizm)? They put Delco parts into them!
The
>>> highest failure components on a Prizm are the alternator and the
radio.
>>> Smart people who realize they have a Corolla in disguise go to a
Toyota
>>> dealer and buy a rebuilt Denso alternator and drive for the next
150,000+
>>> miles without even thinking about it.
>>> Once GM starts thinking Customer over shareholder, and quality parts
>>> rather than cheap parts, GM will again regain it's composure and move 
>>> back
>>> to the top. And I don't mean in sales. You give people a large enough
>>> incentive, they'll buy the car no matter how crummy. I ALMOST went to 
>>> look
>>> at a Cobalt, because a new one was $3,000 less than the Scion I bought
>>> with 11,500 miles. Bit based on the reliability figures of the
Cavalier
>>> the Cobalt replaced, the idea left my head in 5 minutes.
>>>
>>> If GM can get their parts manufacturers to approach the quality and
>>> longevity of Denso, Hitachi, etc, GM might once again become #1 in
>>> QUALITY, and not just pu****ng cars to rental agencies to boost
sales...
>> 
>> GM and Ford have decreased sales to rental fleets.
>> 
>> Jeff
-- 

Sir Hugh of Bognor

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Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find
it!

Hugh Gundersen
hsg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Regis, W.Sus***, England, UK
 




 8 Posts in Topic:
Re: Consider buying American!
Jeff <kidsdoc2000@[EMA  2008-02-17 18:47:06 
Re: Consider buying American!
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-17 10:54:54 
Re: Consider buying American!
hsg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-02-17 21:51:18 
Re: Consider buying American!
gfretwell@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-02-17 16:51:27 
Re: Consider buying American!
jim beam <spamvortex@[  2008-02-17 14:12:41 
Re: Consider buying American!
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku  2008-02-17 22:37:32 
Re: Consider buying American!
still just me <wheeled  2008-02-17 23:24:10 
Re: Consider buying American!
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku  2008-02-18 02:54:41 

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