David Hearn wrote:
> Steve B wrote:
>> "David Hearn" <dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:625035F21qgdkU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Can anyone recommend a suitable fault code reader for a Peugeot 306
>>> 1.4l petrol (Equinox badge), originally purchased in 1998, August I
>>> think. It's a UK model and is the new style.
>>>
>>> It has the 'standard' OBD connector behind the internal fuse box
>>> (in the driver's footwell) - but I've yet to find any confirmation
>>> whether the car actually uses OBDII etc.
>>>
>>> Ideally I'd like something which could give extended information
>>> (not just fault codes, but engine parameters etc), or the more
>>> detailed fault codes (letter + 4 digit), rather than just the more
>>> basic slow code fla****ng light ones.
>>>
>>> However, I don't know whether this car sup****ts any of these more
>>> advanced re****ting - hence my request for a recommendation of a
>>> reader which is known to work with this model era.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> The UifTech U581 (£60 eBay) I've just bought is supposed to be
>> tested as OK with the 306. I have no way of checking this out
>> though. Was your car on sale in the U.S.A in '98? That would make
>> it extremely likely to be OBD2 compatible. There's supposed to be
>> an emissions sticker under the bonnet stating OBD2 or EOBD but my
>> daughter's '02 Megane doesn't have one and it works OK with the
>> U581. The U581 does generic and manufacturer's codes with text
>> descriptions, no idea how extensive the coverage of OEM codes is
>> though, and seems to be the cheapest hand OBD2 EOBD CAN scanner with
>> live data functions and is the reason I bought it. It's also
>> internet updateable. To do better I think you're talking £120 and
>> upwards.
>
> The issue I seem to have is that there are 2 sorts of readers for
> Peuegots - ones which connect onto a connector on the ECU box in the
> engine bay (remove 2 pin connector - insert reader connector into 1
> pin, other connector to an earth) and these are the fla****ng light
> versions. However, this connector is not present on my 1998 306. The
> documentation for one of these readers suggests that these work with
> 306 models up to 1993 - but I certainly don't have the required
> connector.
> The other connector type is an OBD connector next to the steering
> wheel in the fuse box - which this 1998 model 306 has. However,
> searching around on the internet it suggests that it was actually
> from 2001 that this connector was OBD compliant. Apparently, when
> people have tried standard OBD readers in my era of car, they've
> found that they don't work. Typical Peugeot way of doing things -
> put a standard plug on there, but don't implement the actual software
> interface to that standard! As yet, looking at the documentation for
> all the OBD readers, Peugeots are only listed from 2001. The EU
> required all new model petrol cars sold in the EU to implement OBD,
> but existing models got an extension to 2001, which might explain why
> 2001 is listed everywhere.
> So I'm in a bit of a black hole. Older reader's won't work (wrong
> connector), and newer OBD readers won't work as the software interface
> is wrong. There doesn't seem to be an reader for the interim models.
>
> The only possible thing I can think of is that one of the pins on the
> 'slightly OBD' connector exposes the same pin that the old on-ECU
> connector did - but unfortunately I've not yet found any information
> about that.
>
> I believe my old garage which did MOTs (not a Peugeot dealer or
> specialist) used to include the exact RPM + temp during the emissions
> test. My current one (council depot) overrides this and does it
> manually ensuring it's up to temp etc. Does anyone know anything
> about these emissions testers, and how they read the temp/RPM for
> these machines? Because it they use OBD2, then it may give me some
> hope.
> Thanks
>
> D
My MoT place has a gadget that plugs into the cigarette lighter to send
the
rpm to the emissions machine, it can also use a standard HT lead pickup if
needed, oil temp is usually just interpreted as OK by visual inspection,
but
there is also a probe that can be put down the dip stick hole if in doubt
that confirms the exact temperature of the oil to the machine.
He also has a Launch code reader that reads everything imaginable, but it
was several thousand pounds worth !
Mrcheerful
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