"David Hearn" <dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
news:627h79F226elgU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Steve B wrote:
>> "David Hearn" <dave@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:625035F21qgdkU1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Can anyone recommend a suitable fault code reader for a Peugeot 306
1.4l
>>> petrol (Equinox badge), originally purchased in 1998, August I think.
>>> It's a UK model and is the new style.
>>>
>>> It has the 'standard' OBD connector behind the internal fuse box (in
the
>>> driver's footwell) - but I've yet to find any confirmation whether the
>>> car actually uses OBDII etc.
>>>
>>> Ideally I'd like something which could give extended information (not
>>> just fault codes, but engine parameters etc), or the more detailed
fault
>>> codes (letter + 4 digit), rather than just the more basic slow code
>>> fla****ng light ones.
>>>
>>> However, I don't know whether this car sup****ts any of these more
>>> advanced re****ting - hence my request for a recommendation of a reader
>>> which is known to work with this model era.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> David
>>
>> The UifTech U581 (£60 eBay) I've just bought is supposed to be tested
as
>> OK with the 306. I have no way of checking this out though. Was your
>> car on sale in the U.S.A in '98? That would make it extremely likely
to
>> be OBD2 compatible. There's supposed to be an emissions sticker under
>> the bonnet stating OBD2 or EOBD but my daughter's '02 Megane doesn't
have
>> one and it works OK with the U581. The U581 does generic and
>> manufacturer's codes with text descriptions, no idea how extensive the
>> coverage of OEM codes is though, and seems to be the cheapest hand OBD2
>> EOBD CAN scanner with live data functions and is the reason I bought
it.
>> It's also internet updateable. To do better I think you're talking
£120
>> and upwards.
>
> The issue I seem to have is that there are 2 sorts of readers for
> Peuegots - ones which connect onto a connector on the ECU box in the
> engine bay (remove 2 pin connector - insert reader connector into 1 pin,
> other connector to an earth) and these are the fla****ng light versions.
> However, this connector is not present on my 1998 306. The
do***entation
> for one of these readers suggests that these work with 306 models up to
> 1993 - but I certainly don't have the required connector.
>
> The other connector type is an OBD connector next to the steering wheel
in
> the fuse box - which this 1998 model 306 has. However, searching around
> on the internet it suggests that it was actually from 2001 that this
> connector was OBD compliant. Apparently, when people have tried
standard
> OBD readers in my era of car, they've found that they don't work.
Typical
> Peugeot way of doing things - put a standard plug on there, but don't
> implement the actual software interface to that standard! As yet,
looking
> at the do***entation for all the OBD readers, Peugeots are only listed
> from 2001. The EU required all new model petrol cars sold in the EU to
> implement OBD, but existing models got an extension to 2001, which might
> explain why 2001 is listed everywhere.
>
> So I'm in a bit of a black hole. Older reader's won't work (wrong
> connector), and newer OBD readers won't work as the software interface
is
> wrong. There doesn't seem to be an reader for the interim models.
>
> The only possible thing I can think of is that one of the pins on the
> 'slightly OBD' connector exposes the same pin that the old on-ECU
> connector did - but unfortunately I've not yet found any information
about
> that.
>
> I believe my old garage which did MOTs (not a Peugeot dealer or
> specialist) used to include the exact RPM + temp during the emissions
> test. My current one (council depot) overrides this and does it
manually
> ensuring it's up to temp etc. Does anyone know anything about these
> emissions testers, and how they read the temp/RPM for these machines?
> Because it they use OBD2, then it may give me some hope.
>
> Thanks
>
> D
Certainly true for my '98 406 which is fitted with the OBD connector
apparently wired for
ISO 9141-2 but the (Bosch) ECU does not sup****t OBD.
Chris K
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