Re: In what distance would a Bugatti Veyron beat that Vauxhall dragster?

On Jul 10, 7:40 pm, "Burgerman" <burger...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> Well we dont know. The veyron according to conventional wisdom and an
> aerodynamics calc wouldnt actually be able to catch the vauxhall
anyway...


An aerodynamics calc says a car purpose-built to go the better part of
300 mph has an aero *disadvantage* compared to a mass-produced
passenger car from the '70's? He's got some mods on the Vaux body, but
still.


> > That Veyron wouldn't have to hit anywhere near its top speed to beat
> > that Vauxhall. At 180 the Vauxhall is sucking wind, the Veyron is
> > accelerating hard.  While the Vauxhall can go around 190, how long can
> > it maintain it?
>
> Err who knows what it can "maintain" - it has the power to go faster
than
> the veyron anyway. Just.


It has the power and gearing to go a 1/4 mi about 2.5 secs faster - on
a dragstrip on drag tires - ending up at just about its top speed if
it's set up correctly as a drag car.

"What it can maintain" is certainly a crucial issue under the highway
race scenario proposed. If you put taller gears in it to theoretically
give it more top speed, as well as tires made for maintained speeds
near or over 200mph it's going to lose a lot of that short-distance
advantage.  And pu****ng that brick any faster would be inviting
disaster.

Also, unless we see a verified dyno test of that Vauxhall's engine,
we've got only his word for it that it makes 2000hp. People are known
to embellish such claims. And where is that engine making its power?
Aren't the powerband characteristics of the engine im****tant?


> > And how stable is it going to be at that speed
>
> > compared to the Veyron?
>
> Not very. Who said anything about stability?


It's pretty obviously implied when talking about a highway race.
There's probably as much $$ in just the high-tech suspension and
hardware to keep that Veyron stuck to the road as that guy spent total
on the Vauxhall dragster.

You say there's not enough distance to get to full speed - if it gets
over 220 in 1.5 miles, doesn't seem he needs much distance to go
plenty fast.  Aren't there straightaways longer than that in Europe?
That Vaux normally only needs to maintain that top speed for a couple
of seconds before shutting down. A whole different game than going
down the highway.

If that Veyron ever gets even with the Vauxhall at speeds like 120,
130, and I don't see any reason why he wouldn't, how do you figure
he's not going to leave the Vaux in the dust when he's getting into
his powerband and has at least another 120 mph in his back-pocket and
isn't in danger of going airborn approaching and beyond 200?

With streetable tires, drag-race suspension, laughable aerodynamics,
even with taller gears,  I just don't see that Vauxhall looking like
such a hero in a "highway chase" scenario vs the Veyron.

Btw, how does your bike compare to a Yamaha R1? There's video on
YouTube of an R1 getting repeatedly, seriously smoked by a Veyron.