On Jul 11, 6:48 am, Albert T Cone <m...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> > It has the power and gearing to go a 1/4 mi about 2.5 secs faster -
> > on a dragstrip on drag tires - ending up at just about its top speed
> > if it's set up correctly as a drag car.
>
> That 2.7 seconds is a *HUGE* difference. The average acceleration is
> almost twice as high in the Vaux over the quarter mile.
But the point that keeps getting ignored are the conditions under
which it does it. Take away the dragstrip tires and the sticky
dragstrip surface and what does it then become? Weren't the Veyron's
times on street tires on concrete?
> Almost certainly
> it will be good for over 200mph,
Strictly speculation. We know it's good for I believe they said 183
(186?) was its trap speed. Whether it can go much faster than this is
speculation. Not speculation is how much less control he's going to
have over it at those speeds.
We KNOW the Veyron is good for 253 mph - there's video of it doing it
and STILL incrementally climbing.
> because the power will drop off after
> the peak, and it will definitely get there a hell of a lot sooner and be
> a hell of a lot further down the road when it does.
Define "a helluva lot". Assuming 1.) they start from a standing start
as opposed to "they encounter each other driving down the highway and
have a go at it" 2.) he matches his record time he's 2.7 secs ahead
at 1/4 mile. Except he's not going to since he's going to be on
street tires on a street surface so we can safely hack off what, at
least 1.5 secs or so? If he's been allowed to put taller gears in it,
all that will do is reduce his 1/4 mile time even further. Under THOSE
conditions, how much is he going to be ahead?
Burgerman already related what happened when he had a considerable
head start on the Veyron. He got trashed at 1.5 miles even though he
was doing close to 180.
And if the Vaux and Veyron were to go at it from a highway speed
start, how do you figure the Veyron as the underdog?
> As Burgerman says, in a give and take race on the motorway, where speeds
> probably aren't going to venture above 200mph that much
Over a couple of miles, why not? Of course, in the case of the Vaux,
it's unknown whether it can even do it.
> the vaux is
> pretty certain to win.
Have you seen that video of the Veyron vs the Audi R8? If the specs I
saw are correct, that Audi is a near 190 mph car . They punch it from
a highway speed start - with the Audi going first. When the Veyron
floors it, it looks like the Audi slammed the brakes on even though
he's accelerating, and damn quickly given how fast he's reading off
the speed 100 - 110 - 120 about as fast as he can say it. Yet by the
time he hits 120 that Veyron is GONE.
> The video showed it to be surprisingly tractable when tootling.
At what, 50 mph? Let's see how it holds the road at 170+ over a
distance.
> > You say there's not enough distance to get to full speed - if it gets
> > over 220 in 1.5 miles, doesn't seem he needs much distance to go
> > plenty fast. Aren't there straightaways longer than that in Europe?
>
> There are plenty of straight sections of that sort of length, but the
> Vaux gets to 200+mph in less than 0.5 mile,
On drag tires on a dragstrip. And we don't know it'll do 200 or if the
guy will be toying with suicide trying to pilot it down the road near
that speed. He normally goes in a straight line and for a few
seconds. And from a highway speed start, the entire scenario
changes.
> so it will have made rather
> a significant lead by the time the Veyron matches it's top speed,
Again, which is going to be considerably shortened under street
conditions. Now who wins in a "drag race" from say 120 to 200?
> would imagine.
> OK, stuff it, lets do the geek thing properly :) I've done a noddy
> excel drag-race, using the available data for both cars.
Not familiar with this "noddy" I keep seeing pop up. ?? Please
translate to American. Also, what about the phrase "not a lot in it"
I've seen.
:-)
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