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Re: In what distance would a Bugatti Veyron beat that Vauxhall dragster?

by Tom De Moor <viperengine@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 11, 2007 at 07:48 PM

In article <t4ali.27569$3j1.14172@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 
burgerman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> "Tom De Moor" <viperengine@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:MPG.20ff48e212549d07989a9d@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <CY8li.10352$fi4.2351@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > burgerman@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> >>
> >> >> However, it will shatter when it finally comes to a stop.  As will
the
> >> >> Vauxhall.
> >>
> >> A shattered vauxhall?
> >> Mmmm
> >> Not very likely now is it...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Still remain:
> >
> > - does the Vauxhall stays aerodynamical stable at sustained high
speeds
> 
> No reason why not. Many drag cars go faster and are the same shape.

That is not what I ment: the car travelles at 200 Mph and is blown off 
line by a gust of wind. What happens? Or the car travelles at 200 mph 
and hits a bump. Does it take off?


> 
> 
> > - is the Vauxhall mechanically strong enough to cope over a longer
> > periode of time with the forces induced by its topspeed?
> 
> Probably. Who can know. Seems to me that if it copes over a quarter
without 
> anything breaking or melting its not going to be a problem.

:) 

Then you think an endurance car is no different to a sprint car? A 
hillclimb-specific engine (a run takes about 60 sec) nothing diffent to 
a drag racer?

Last time I looked engines on dragsters weren't even that reliable in 
the sense that the real dragsters suffer regulary engine problems. It is 
just becasue the engine are but for 6-15 sec at full power that they 
survive, idem for transmissions.

> 
> > - how many minutes will his engine be able to  produced 2200 HP?
> 
> Unknown. Long Enough...
> 

I think that 1 minute or 60 seconds, will be allready a very very good 
estimation.
> 
>  How
> > accurate are the 2200 ponies?
> 
> Pretty good estimate based on his times/terminal and weight.
> 
> 
> > - how many minutes can he drive (fuelwise) at WOT?
> 
> Long enough! Its a road car! If it normally does 300 to a tank and the
thing 
> has 20 times the power then it should go 1/20th of the 300 miles. So 15 
> miles?

It doesn't do 300 miles on full power, never has but OK : 15 miles it 
is. At WOT the 15 miles are gone in 4 min 30... That if the fuel cell is 
standard which I doubt a lot. 

> 
> > - how do his tires cope on a longer run? (remember the Hamster)
> 
> The hamsters car had ordinary treaded zr rated tyres. At least it did
when 
> it was at santa pod... And they were not changed very often. Sammy
millers 
> 450mph car had road car tyres too.

Once again: there is a major difference between hitting topspeed a 
fraction of a second and then backing off compared to hitting topspeed 
and staying there.

The latter I know only from planes and there too engine life goes down 
in dramatic fa****on, fuel and oil consumption go just the opposite.

Just to put it perspectif: 75% of the cost of the Veyron is justified 
because the car must remain safe at speeds above 200 mph. 

Tom De Moor
 




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Doc <docsavage20@[EMAI  2007-07-10 07:06:08 
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"Burgerman" <  2007-07-11 18:04:18 
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Tom De Moor <viperengi  2007-07-11 19:06:20 
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"Burgerman" <  2007-07-11 19:20:57 
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Tom De Moor <viperengi  2007-07-11 19:48:40 
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"Burgerman" <  2007-07-11 20:42:42 
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Tom De Moor <viperengi  2007-07-11 21:40:54 
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"Burgerman" <  2007-07-12 00:28:40 
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