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Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?

by Albm&ctd <alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 03:31 PM

In article <VvNTj.7890$ko5.1069@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>, 
abused@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> "Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:MPG.22897e644d8a6ea98977c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > In article <MPG.228664ae4c6c7e8b989e31@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> > carl.robson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> >> In article <MPG.22804077cd51d635989765@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> >> alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
> >> > Probably because E85 will toasr any engine not made to run on it.
> >> >
> >> I doubt it. It won't cause pre-ignition because it is a higher
octane.
> >> It may run lean if the engine sensors/ecu don't have a wide enough
range
> >> of adaption, but it should still run even if the ecu goes to limphome
> >> mode.
> >>
> >> Older carb cars would have less issues as long as there is enough
range
> >> on the mixture adjustments/jetting.
> >>
> >> Only issue might be if the ethanol reacts with any existing metals or
> >> plastics/rubbers in the fuel system. It is still a spark combustion
> >> fuel.
> >>
> > Regarding running ethanol, I simply don't think burnt valves, holed
> > pistons or cracked heads would improve performance or emissions. Not
as
> > bad as methanol though. You MUST make changes to timing and jetting to
> > run alcohol fuels and you will use far more alcohol than petrol for
the
> > same power output. The ideal is to run alcohol fuels on the rich side
to
> > avoid problems. With methanol it's approximately twice the fuel you
would
> > use on straight petrol. You can't just dump these fuels into an engine
> > with stock settings and expect the engine to last.
> >
> > Al
> > -- 
> >
> > Like Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks
> > I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress.
> > http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
> 
> I remember helping a friend set his Honda CR 250 to run on Methanol
years 
> ago, the common consensus was to think of the biggest jet size you think
it 
> needed then double it :-)
> It ran really well and we didn't care that he had the fastest chook
chaser 
> amongst us, it was always a pleasure to follow in his exhaust smoke ;-)
> 
Aldehydes cause insanity apparently... so that's what happened to you.  
Think fuel flow in *area* of jets. Don't forget the needle and seat 
restriction playing a part in the setup. If you have a whopping main jet 
it could drain the bowl and you will run lean at high rpm.. nasty. 
Oh well you can't fall out of the sky. AFAIK they won't allow even E10 in 
light aircraft. 

Al
-- 
I don't take sides. 
It's more fun to insult everyone. 
http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
 




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Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-26 21:30:38 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Polly the Parrot <flat  2008-04-27 07:58:22 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Sheik Yerbhouti <sy@[E  2008-04-26 22:56:55 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Mr. 7%" <no  2008-04-27 10:37:48 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-27 00:56:30 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-27 04:48:09 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-28 20:14:41 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-28 20:33:41 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-29 01:34:47 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-03 13:03:10 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 20:29:12 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-05 11:56:38 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 21:48:55 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-05 13:21:52 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 00:21:09 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-06 15:31:07 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 06:26:45 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 09:37:29 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-27 05:01:35 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-28 00:04:31 

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