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Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?

by "Atheist Chaplain" <abused@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > May 6, 2008 at 06:26 AM

"Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:MPG.228a89ff563607d398977f@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> In article <VvNTj.7890$ko5.1069@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
> abused@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>> "Albm&ctd" <alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.22897e644d8a6ea98977c@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > In article <MPG.228664ae4c6c7e8b989e31@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> > carl.robson@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>> >> In article <MPG.22804077cd51d635989765@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>,
>> >> alb_mandctdNOWMD@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 says...
>> >> > Probably because E85 will toasr any engine not made to run on it.
>> >> >
>> >> I doubt it. It won't cause pre-ignition because it is a higher
octane.
>> >> It may run lean if the engine sensors/ecu don't have a wide enough 
>> >> range
>> >> of adaption, but it should still run even if the ecu goes to
limphome
>> >> mode.
>> >>
>> >> Older carb cars would have less issues as long as there is enough 
>> >> range
>> >> on the mixture adjustments/jetting.
>> >>
>> >> Only issue might be if the ethanol reacts with any existing metals
or
>> >> plastics/rubbers in the fuel system. It is still a spark combustion
>> >> fuel.
>> >>
>> > Regarding running ethanol, I simply don't think burnt valves, holed
>> > pistons or cracked heads would improve performance or emissions. Not
as
>> > bad as methanol though. You MUST make changes to timing and jetting
to
>> > run alcohol fuels and you will use far more alcohol than petrol for
the
>> > same power output. The ideal is to run alcohol fuels on the rich side

>> > to
>> > avoid problems. With methanol it's approximately twice the fuel you 
>> > would
>> > use on straight petrol. You can't just dump these fuels into an
engine
>> > with stock settings and expect the engine to last.
>> >
>> > Al
>> > -- 
>> >
>> > Like Noddy, as I travel through life, it's not the personal attacks
>> > I'm concerned about, it's being recognised wearing lippy and a dress.
>> > http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html
>>
>> I remember helping a friend set his Honda CR 250 to run on Methanol
years
>> ago, the common consensus was to think of the biggest jet size you
think 
>> it
>> needed then double it :-)
>> It ran really well and we didn't care that he had the fastest chook 
>> chaser
>> amongst us, it was always a pleasure to follow in his exhaust smoke ;-)
>>
> Aldehydes cause insanity apparently... so that's what happened to you.
> Think fuel flow in *area* of jets. Don't forget the needle and seat
> restriction playing a part in the setup. If you have a whopping main jet
> it could drain the bowl and you will run lean at high rpm.. nasty.
> Oh well you can't fall out of the sky. AFAIK they won't allow even E10
in
> light aircraft.
>
> Al
> -- 
> I don't take sides.
> It's more fun to insult everyone.
> http://kwakakid.cjb.net/insult.html


That could be it then :-)
remembering that this was decades ago and he had the bike set up to race 
short circuit flat track. He did pretty well at it and competed at a 
national level, its just a pity that he got the dreaded "rust" and it
killed 
him a few years ago.

-- 
"Calling Atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color."
Don Hirschberg
 




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Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-26 21:30:38 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Polly the Parrot <flat  2008-04-27 07:58:22 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Sheik Yerbhouti <sy@[E  2008-04-26 22:56:55 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Mr. 7%" <no  2008-04-27 10:37:48 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Eeyore <rabbitsfriends  2008-04-27 00:56:30 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-27 04:48:09 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-28 20:14:41 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-04-28 20:33:41 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-29 01:34:47 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-03 13:03:10 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 20:29:12 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-05 11:56:38 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-05 21:48:55 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Elder <carl.robson@[EM  2008-05-05 13:21:52 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 00:21:09 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Albm&ctd <alb_mand  2008-05-06 15:31:07 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-05-06 06:26:45 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
tony@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-05-09 09:37:29 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
Saab C900 Viggenist <c  2008-04-27 05:01:35 
Re: Why is the supply of E85 fuel so tightly controlled?
"Atheist Chaplain&qu  2008-04-28 00:04:31 

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