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Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly

by Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 18, 2008 at 05:03 PM

On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 11:57:23 -0700 (PDT), Built_Well
<Built_Well_Toyota@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

>Retired VIP wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Jul 2008 08:57:34 -0700 (PDT), Built_Well
>> <Built_Well_Toyota@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Last month I rotated the wheels on the '06 Camry, from front
>> >to back.  Yesterday I re-torqued them after 350 miles of driving
>> >and five weeks.
>> >
>> >All the lug nuts on the two rear wheels did not turn even
>> >a bit; they were perfectly torqued.  But 4 out of 5 lug nuts on
>> >the passenger-side front wheel turned a little bit, less than a
>> >quarter turn--probably about an eighth of a turn (1/8 turn).
>> >
>> >On the driver-side front wheel, 2 out of 5 lug nuts also turned
>> >about 1/8 of a turn when I re-torqued them.
>> >
>> >I know these 6 loosened lug nuts on the two front wheels
>> >lost more than 5 foot-pounds of their original 76 foot-pound
>> >torque setting because yesterday to re-torque them, I set my
>> >torque wrench at 71 foot-pounds, which is 5 less than the
>> >76 foot-pounds I torqued them to last month during the
>> >5,000-mile wheel rotation.
>> >
>> >Is this greater-than-5-foot-pound loosening of some of the
>> >lug nuts on the front wheels something to be concerned
>> >about?  I'd like to wait until the next 5,000-mile wheel rotation
>> >before re-torquing the wheels again.  Is this advisable, or should
>> >I check and re-torque the wheels more often?
>>
>> I hate to say it but it sounds like you didn't torque the front wheels
>> properly.  Did you come up on the proper torque in stages using a
>> criss-cross pattern?  After you torqued the nuts to 76 ft/lbs did you
>> back them off, one at a time, and re-torque to 76 again?
>>
>> If you didn't use a criss-cross pattern, it's possible that you got a
>> bit of a warp in the wheel or the rotor which worked itself out as you
>> drove the car.  Backing off and re-torquing makes sure that your lug
>> nut is seated against the wheel properly.
>>
>> Jack
>=========================
>
>Yes, I used a criss-cross or star pattern, and torqued
>each set of lug nuts gradually, first to 40, then to 60,
>then 76.
>
>I also re-torqued everything last month during the rotation, but
>what do you mean by "back them off, one at a time, and re-torque
>to 76 again."

You need to be sure that the shoulder of the nut is seated properly
into the counter-sunk lug hole of the wheel.  A fast way to do this is
to bring the lug nuts up to the proper torque in steps.  Then loosen
each nut a bit and retorque it to the proper torque.  Don't loosen and
retorque all the nuts at the same time, do them one at a time.

Jack
 




 38 Posts in Topic:
Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-17 08:57:34 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Paul <Paul@[EMAIL PROT  2008-07-17 13:10:13 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-17 11:19:07 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Retired VIP <jackj.ext  2008-07-17 18:42:30 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-17 11:57:23 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Retired VIP <jackj.ext  2008-07-18 17:03:59 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-07-19 00:30:30 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"Jeff Strickland&quo  2008-07-17 12:46:47 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Daniel <nospampls2002@  2008-07-17 14:16:28 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"Mike hunt" <  2008-07-17 18:47:44 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
spamTHISbrp@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-17 15:55:08 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-17 17:59:13 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-17 18:04:48 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"Art" <begun  2008-07-17 22:23:00 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
RT <noyabusiness@[EMAI  2008-07-17 22:06:35 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-17 19:39:15 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
ray <rollingviolation@  2008-07-20 02:53:41 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"Ray O" <rok  2008-07-17 22:17:18 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 22:13:48 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Fat Moe <FatMoe@[EMAIL  2008-07-19 19:21:32 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Vic Smith <thismailaut  2008-07-19 19:33:58 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"Ray O" <rok  2008-07-19 21:32:09 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-17 21:16:49 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"Ray O" <rok  2008-07-17 23:41:22 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-18 08:44:51 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-07-18 17:56:39 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Tegger <tegger@[EMAIL   2008-07-18 22:06:56 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-18 17:43:35 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-18 23:42:02 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-19 00:03:49 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-19 12:18:55 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Dan_Thomas_nospam@[EMAIL   2008-07-21 20:35:15 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
Retired VIP <jackj.ext  2008-07-22 13:22:27 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-22 09:36:33 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-22 09:51:01 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
"HLS" <nospa  2008-07-22 12:34:02 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-23 18:29:59 
Re: Wheels' Lug nuts loosened unexpectedly
johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-23 19:02:03 

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