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Re: Consumer Re****ts reliability survey for Cars

by E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 23, 2008 at 06:34 PM

On 7/23/08 10:46 AM, in article
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 "N8N"
<njnagel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:

> On Jul 23, 11:38 am, Built_Well <Built_Well_Toy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>> I was surprised to read that the 2 bottom trim levels of the
>> 
>> new Passat do not come with automatic headlights.  You have
>> 
>> to spring for the third trim level (called Lux) to get the
>> automatics.  Kinda surprised me.  All trims are turbo, though,
>> even the bottom trim.  The little 4-cylinder (just 2.0 liter)
>> engine can put out 200 horsepower.
>> 
>> The Jetta, assembled in Mexico, now comes with a 5th cylinder.
>> It's an inline 5, and boasts 2.5 liters, more than my 2.4 liter
>> Camry.  But Consumer Re****ts says Volkswagen isn't known for
>> its long-term reliability.  A Consumer Re****ts survey of owners
>> listed the '06 Passat as one of the least reliable family cars,
>> but it drives really good, nice handling.
> 
> IMHO CR is full of crap WRT VW.  Probably they just don't take a long
> term enough view.  I wish I hadn't sold my '84 Scirocco; that was the
> most reliabile, bulletproof car I've ever owned.  The problem with VWs
> is they do tend to have teething problems when new, which reflects
> badly on surveys, but they will run for literally decades with only
> regular maintenance.
> 
> That said, I would steer clear of the B-chassis models (Passat) and
> stick with the A-chassis (Rabbit, Jetta, Scirocco, Golf) as the Passat
> is known for finicky electrics.
> 
> Of course, if the nicer trim and better driving qualities of the VW
> aren't im****tant to you, it is also hard to go wrong with Toyota.  I'm
> a die hard VW fan, but even so, I have to give some grudging respect
> to Toyota for continuously churning out reliable, durable vehicles as
> well.
> 
> The VW 20V turbo 4-cylinders (1.8T and now 2.0T) are just ludicrous.
> If you think you want to stick with Toyota you should probably never
> drive one.  The torque is intoxicating.  I would love to get a pre-82
> Scirocco (or maybe a Corrado G60, or a ****sche 924) and drop a 1.8T or
> 2.0T in it, that would just be a stupidly quick combination.
> 
> nate

My experience with VW says CR is dead on.  My '79 Rabbit was beyond all
doubt the worst car I ever owned.  The engine compartment ground bundle
located directly beneath the drip spout under the battery epitomized the
stupid engineering that went into that car.
 




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Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-23 08:38:05 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-23 11:45:52 
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Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-23 15:49:20 
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"Edwin Pawlowski&quo  2008-07-23 21:22:19 
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Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 09:46:28 
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Ashton Crusher <demi@[  2008-07-26 22:49:01 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-27 11:41:12 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 08:46:24 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-07-23 18:34:51 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Mark A" <no  2008-07-23 15:05:01 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-23 09:10:19 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 11:11:22 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 12:05:24 
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"Mark A" <no  2008-07-23 15:11:37 
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"Mortimer" <  2008-07-23 20:31:36 
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"Willy" <wes  2008-07-23 21:04:52 
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"Mortimer" <  2008-07-24 09:05:18 
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"Mark A" <no  2008-07-24 05:02:18 
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N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 12:17:19 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
gnu linux <rob.fruth@[  2008-07-23 15:04:41 
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PerfectReign <theperfe  2008-07-23 15:30:26 
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Ray <ray@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 22:40:43 
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johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-23 18:14:26 
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Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-23 20:31:04 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"SC Tom" <sc  2008-07-24 07:00:42 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-24 17:00:00 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
coachrose13@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 20:45:35 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
<mechanic@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 04:27:29 
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<mechanic@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 04:28:14 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Calab" <mys  2008-07-24 05:37:10 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
PerfectReign <theperfe  2008-07-24 07:45:54 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-24 07:56:12 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"80_Knight" <  2008-07-26 02:23:31 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-26 10:27:17 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"80_Knight" <  2008-07-26 22:55:58 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Rick Cooper" &  2008-07-26 10:36:00 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-26 22:16:48 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
PerfectReign <theperfe  2008-07-27 06:40:06 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"80 Knight" <  2008-08-03 00:19:20 

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