On Jul 23, 2:34=A0pm, E Meyer <epmeye...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On 7/23/08 10:46 AM, in article
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> > On Jul 23, 11:38=A0am, Built_Well <Built_Well_Toy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> I was surprised to read that the 2 bottom trim levels of the
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> >> new Passat do not come with automatic headlights. =A0You have
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> >> to spring for the third trim level (called Lux) to get the
> >> automatics. =A0Kinda surprised me. =A0All trims are turbo, though,
> >> even the bottom trim. =A0The little 4-cylinder (just 2.0 liter)
> >> engine can put out 200 horsepower.
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> >> The Jetta, assembled in Mexico, now comes with a 5th cylinder.
> >> It's an inline 5, and boasts 2.5 liters, more than my 2.4 liter
> >> Camry. =A0But Consumer Re****ts says Volkswagen isn't known for
> >> its long-term reliability. =A0A Consumer Re****ts survey of owners
> >> listed the '06 Passat as one of the least reliable family cars,
> >> but it drives really good, nice handling.
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> > IMHO CR is full of crap WRT VW. =A0Probably they just don't take a
long
> > term enough view. =A0I wish I hadn't sold my '84 Scirocco; that was
the
> > most reliabile, bulletproof car I've ever owned. =A0The problem with
VW=
s
> > is they do tend to have teething problems when new, which reflects
> > badly on surveys, but they will run for literally decades with only
> > regular maintenance.
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> > That said, I would steer clear of the B-chassis models (Passat) and
> > stick with the A-chassis (Rabbit, Jetta, Scirocco, Golf) as the Passat
> > is known for finicky electrics.
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> > Of course, if the nicer trim and better driving qualities of the VW
> > aren't im****tant to you, it is also hard to go wrong with Toyota.
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> > a die hard VW fan, but even so, I have to give some grudging respect
> > to Toyota for continuously churning out reliable, durable vehicles as
> > well.
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> > The VW 20V turbo 4-cylinders (1.8T and now 2.0T) are just ludicrous.
> > If you think you want to stick with Toyota you should probably never
> > drive one. =A0The torque is intoxicating. =A0I would love to get a
pre-=
82
> > Scirocco (or maybe a Corrado G60, or a ****sche 924) and drop a 1.8T or
> > 2.0T in it, that would just be a stupidly quick combination.
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> > nate
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> My experience with VW says CR is dead on. =A0My '79 Rabbit was beyond
all
> doubt the worst car I ever owned. =A0The engine compartment ground
bundle
> located directly beneath the drip spout under the battery epitomized the
> stupid engineering that went into that car.
I've had quite a few 80's era watercooled VWs over the years and I can
honestly say that only two were in any way finicky - my '89 GTI 16V,
because it was a resurrected "barn car" (once I replaced pretty much
any accessory with bearings, it was quite reliable - I eventually sold
it to a friend who drove it daily until a year or two ago when she
sold it) and SWMBO's '90 Corrado G60, because it's a Corrado and those
aren't up to normal VW standards.
My cars were not pampered - sat outside 24/7, expected to start on a
moment's notice after sitting for a week or more, be able to drive up
and down the east coast without any preparation, etc. and they never
let me down.
nate
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