On Jul 23, 3:05=A0pm, N8N <njna...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> On Jul 23, 2:34=A0pm, E Meyer <epmeye...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > On 7/23/08 10:46 AM, in article
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> > <njna...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > > On Jul 23, 11:38=A0am, Built_Well <Built_Well_Toy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > >> I was surprised to read that the 2 bottom trim levels of the
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> > >> new Passat do not come with automatic headlights. =A0You have
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> > >> to spring for the third trim level (called Lux) to get the
> > >> automatics. =A0Kinda surprised me. =A0All trims are turbo, though,
> > >> even the bottom trim. =A0The little 4-cylinder (just 2.0 liter)
> > >> engine can put out 200 horsepower.
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> > >> The Jetta, assembled in Mexico, now comes with a 5th cylinder.
> > >> It's an inline 5, and boasts 2.5 liters, more than my 2.4 liter
> > >> Camry. =A0But Consumer Re****ts says Volkswagen isn't known for
> > >> its long-term reliability. =A0A Consumer Re****ts survey of owners
> > >> listed the '06 Passat as one of the least reliable family cars,
> > >> but it drives really good, nice handling.
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> > > IMHO CR is full of crap WRT VW. =A0Probably they just don't take a
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> > > term enough view. =A0I wish I hadn't sold my '84 Scirocco; that was
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> > > most reliabile, bulletproof car I've ever owned. =A0The problem with
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> > > is they do tend to have teething problems when new, which reflects
> > > badly on surveys, but they will run for literally decades with only
> > > regular maintenance.
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> > > That said, I would steer clear of the B-chassis models (Passat) and
> > > stick with the A-chassis (Rabbit, Jetta, Scirocco, Golf) as the
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> > > is known for finicky electrics.
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> > > Of course, if the nicer trim and better driving qualities of the VW
> > > aren't im****tant to you, it is also hard to go wrong with Toyota.
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> > > a die hard VW fan, but even so, I have to give some grudging respect
> > > to Toyota for continuously churning out reliable, durable vehicles
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> > > well.
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> > > The VW 20V turbo 4-cylinders (1.8T and now 2.0T) are just ludicrous.
> > > If you think you want to stick with Toyota you should probably never
> > > drive one. =A0The torque is intoxicating. =A0I would love to get a
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> > > Scirocco (or maybe a Corrado G60, or a ****sche 924) and drop a 1.8T
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> > > 2.0T in it, that would just be a stupidly quick combination.
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> > > nate
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> > My experience with VW says CR is dead on. =A0My '79 Rabbit was beyond
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> > doubt the worst car I ever owned. =A0The engine compartment ground
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> > located directly beneath the drip spout under the battery epitomized
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> > stupid engineering that went into that car.
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> I've had quite a few 80's era watercooled VWs over the years and I can
> honestly say that only two were in any way finicky - my '89 GTI 16V,
> because it was a resurrected "barn car" (once I replaced pretty much
> any accessory with bearings, it was quite reliable - I eventually sold
> it to a friend who drove it daily until a year or two ago when she
> sold it) and SWMBO's '90 Corrado G60, because it's a Corrado and those
> aren't up to normal VW standards.
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> My cars were not pampered - sat outside 24/7, expected to start on a
> moment's notice after sitting for a week or more, be able to drive up
> and down the east coast without any preparation, etc. and they never
> let me down.
Actually upon reflection I lied. The alternator on the roccet died on
me while driving between Detroit and Annapolis. at only 240K miles.
cheapass POS.
nate
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