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by "Mortimer" <me@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jul 23, 2008 at 08:31 PM

"N8N" <njnagel@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 "N8N"

I've had quite a few 80's era watercooled VWs over the years and I can
honestly say that only two were in any way finicky - my '89 GTI 16V,
because it was a resurrected "barn car" (once I replaced pretty much
any accessory with bearings, it was quite reliable - I eventually sold
it to a friend who drove it daily until a year or two ago when she
sold it) and SWMBO's '90 Corrado G60, because it's a Corrado and those
aren't up to normal VW standards.

My cars were not pampered - sat outside 24/7, expected to start on a
moment's notice after sitting for a week or more, be able to drive up
and down the east coast without any preparation, etc. and they never
let me down.


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I had two VW Golfs (1.8 petrol - a 1988 Mark II and a 1993 Mark III). I
was 
generally very pleased with them, though they were fairly expensive to 
maintain because of the high cost of parts, even in the UK which is not as

far from Germany as, for example, the USA is.

The first car (which had a carburettor) had a problem with its automatic 
choke which occasionally in hot weather made the engine race - very 
embarrassingly once when I got stuck in a traffic jam on the infamous M25 
motorway ("London's orbital car-park"!) and I had to turn off the engine 
every time I came to a stand-still and then slip the clutch like mad to 
crawl forward a few feet. But that was fixed fairly quickly and under 
warranty.

The second one developed an annoying problem where the engine kept losing 
power or hesitating. It kept going back to the garage and they could never

find anything. Eventually they decided to keep it for a week and loan me 
another car in the meantime so they could give it a good test. On the last

day the mechanic rang up in a state of considerable elation and yelled
"It's 
just gone wrong! I know what it is! I've fixed it!" - it was the throttle 
sensor which detects the position of the throttle pedal and feeds the info

to the engine management unit: this had developed a fault. The component 
cost a few quid but the labour was going to be several hundred pounds... 
until I was able to produce a garage receipt showing that the car was
still 
within the mileage limit for the warranty when I first re****ted the fault,

so VW head office eventually agreed to pay up.

The first car was lovely - much more lively than the other one though the 
power and torque were very similar. Only slight design flaw: the sill at
the 
base of the windscreen had tiny drain holes into the wheel arches and
these 
easily got blocked. Once day after torrential rain overnight I got into
the 
car and found I was paddling in six inches of water! Having got the
majority 
of the water out with buckets and mopped up with towels, I then spent one 
weekend removing the seats and then the carpet so I could wash the carpets

(which had started to smell - especially the underlay). It was weird
driving 
around with bare metal floor and only my seat ;-)

Fuel economy was not brilliant - about 30-35 mpg (UK) which is about 24-28

mpg (US).

I now have a Peugeot 306 diesel which has just done 129,000 miles and is 
still going strong after nine years. 50-55 mpg, bullet-proof, starts first

time every time whatever the weather. But it's getting to the age when 
expensive things are starting to need attention: new catalytic converter, 
replacement cambelt (scheduled), two new fanbelts (unplanned - second one 
was because garage that fitted first one didn't notice that a pulley was 
wobbly so it took out the belt after about a month - GRRRRR!).

I'm not sure what I'd replace it with because I don't like the Peugeot 307

or 308, and the VW Golf is very expensive for what it is and, like so many

modern cars, has one of these not-fit-for-purpose spacesaver spare wheels.

Also the rear seats don't remove so I wouldn't be able to carry my bicycle

as easily. The Honda Civic (new shape) and the Citroen C4 are gimmicky 
(digital instruments in the centre of the dashboard).

Ford and Vauxhall - boring!
 




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Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-23 08:38:05 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
kludge@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2008-07-23 11:45:52 
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Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-23 15:49:20 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Edwin Pawlowski&quo  2008-07-23 21:22:19 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Steve <no@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 09:46:28 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Ashton Crusher <demi@[  2008-07-26 22:49:01 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-27 11:41:12 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 08:46:24 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
E Meyer <epmeyer50@[EM  2008-07-23 18:34:51 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Mark A" <no  2008-07-23 15:05:01 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-23 09:10:19 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 11:11:22 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 12:05:24 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Mark A" <no  2008-07-23 15:11:37 
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"Mortimer" <  2008-07-23 20:31:36 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Willy" <wes  2008-07-23 21:04:52 
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"Mortimer" <  2008-07-24 09:05:18 
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"Mark A" <no  2008-07-24 05:02:18 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
N8N <njnagel@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-23 12:17:19 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
gnu linux <rob.fruth@[  2008-07-23 15:04:41 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
PerfectReign <theperfe  2008-07-23 15:30:26 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Ray <ray@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 22:40:43 
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johngdole@[EMAIL PROTECTE  2008-07-23 18:14:26 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-23 20:31:04 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"SC Tom" <sc  2008-07-24 07:00:42 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-24 17:00:00 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
coachrose13@[EMAIL PROTEC  2008-07-23 20:45:35 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
<mechanic@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 04:27:29 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
<mechanic@[EMAIL PROTE  2008-07-24 04:28:14 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Calab" <mys  2008-07-24 05:37:10 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
PerfectReign <theperfe  2008-07-24 07:45:54 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Built_Well <Built_Well  2008-07-24 07:56:12 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"80_Knight" <  2008-07-26 02:23:31 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"C. E. White" &  2008-07-26 10:27:17 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"80_Knight" <  2008-07-26 22:55:58 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"Rick Cooper" &  2008-07-26 10:36:00 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
Gosi <gosinn@[EMAIL PR  2008-07-26 22:16:48 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
PerfectReign <theperfe  2008-07-27 06:40:06 
Re: Consumer Reports reliability survey for Cars
"80 Knight" <  2008-08-03 00:19:20 

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