Re: Engines that are prone to sludge

rob wrote:
> oh yeah....some quick change places deal in so much volume that they
have an 
> acceptable loss policy of 1 engine, 1 trans, or 1 differential...per
month.

I wasn't aware of that, but that would be due to things like forgetting 
to refill after the drain, or refilling without the drain plug having 
been re-installed - on two separate occasions, I was in a local shop 
getting some pricing, and another person was in there getting a quote 
for a new engine due to the local WalMart having left the oil drain plug 
out.

There would of course not be the immediate or even detectable effect of 
simply charging the customer for work not done, which seems to be the 
policy of *many* places as in "hey - what the customer doesn't know 
won't hurt them - if the customer doesn't know, what's the harm?" 
out-right fraud mentality.

> "Bill Putney" <bptn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
> news:6f1sj2F9gap2U1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> rob wrote:
>>> Toyota news
>>>
>>> http://yotarepair.com/News_release.html
>>>
>>> http://yotarepair.com/Sludge_Zone.html
>>>
>>> http://yotarepair.com/My%20Opinion.html
>> Interesting links.
>>
>> One thing that I failed to mention previously is the fraudulent
practices 
>> by many quick oil change places - and yes - even some dealers - on oil
and 
>> filter changes.  By that I mean charging the customer for it,
do***enting 
>> that it was done, yet not actually doing the work. There are TV news
team 
>> exposes on some of the quick oil change places. And I caught the local 
>> Chrysler dealer doing that on my elderly mother on the very first oil
and 
>> filter change on her brand new Concorde.  I also discovered a Mopar
filter 
>> (complete with rust around the unpainted outer part of the base) on a
Jeep 
>> Cherokee that my daughter bought for which the previous owner had 
>> do***entation that the oil and filter had been religiously changed at a

>> local quick change place since it was new every 3000 miles.  So - based
on 
>> personal experience, you'd have a hard time convincing me that this is
not 
>> arguably a common practice.
>>
>> I have to wonder how much that factor plays into this issue.  Certainly
it 
>> would for engines who were more prone to sludging than others that were

>> more tolerant of extended/missed oil changes.
>>
>> Bill Putney
>> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my
address 
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