On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:00:38 -0500, Fat Moe <FatMoe@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>hsg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>> On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:02:09 -0700 (PDT), Built_Well
>> <Built_Well_Toyota@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
>>
>> Actually one of our car mags here in the UK have just run an article on
BP
>> hi-grade gas & Diesel.
>>
>> They state that the claims for extra mileage is true but the most
convincing for
>> me at least is the test using an Audi V8 adapted to run one bank on
regular
>> gas/petrol and the other bank on BP Ultimate.
>>
>> They fitted cameras to the inside of the combustion chambers and the
regular
>> fuel side is a ****y as hell and the BP Ultimate side is like a new
stainless
>> steel sink with no deposits and sparkling clean.
>>
>> You might see pics on the web "Car Mechanics" or "Kelsey Publi****ng"
>>
>> try - http://www.kelsey.co.uk
>>
>> Hugh
>>> Usually I get 24 miles to the gallon for stop-and-go city
>>> driving with the '06 Camry LE, but this last tankful I got
>>> 28 city. I really babied the accelerator pedal this time
>>> and, of course, have plenty of air in the tires. I had
>>> Shell V-Power premium in the tank this time (for its
>>> exceptional detergent levels), but usually I just put in
>>> a regular grade.
>>>
>>> I had Hy-Vee Grocery Store premium in there two tankfuls
>>> back, and thought the car was idling kinda rough sometimes
>>> while stopped, so I thought some Shell V-Power was in
>>> order to help clean out any minute amounts of potential
>>> gunk I might have gotten from the Hy-Vee gas.
>>>
>>> When I asked him, the Hy-Vee manager said his gas met
>>> the Top Tier standard, but Hy-Vee is not on the list
>>> of Top Tier stations at toptiergas.com, so I doubt
>>> Hy-Vee is Top Tier.
>>>
>>> On Hy-Vee, the car once idled at only 600 rpm; I've never
>>> seen it idle so low. Usually 650 to 700 is the lowest it'll
>>> idle at. It could have been a coincidence that the one 600
>>> idle happened under Hy-Vee.
>>>
>>> Quoting the Break Time page at the MFA Oil web site:
>>>
>>> "TOP TIER Gasoline is a new class of gasoline with enhanced
>>> detergency. It meets new, voluntary deposit control standards
>>> developed by four automotive companies - BMW, General Motors,
>>> Honda and Toyota - that exceed the detergent requirements
>>> imposed by the EPA.
>>>
>>> "TOP TIER Gasoline keeps engine parts cleaner by reducing
>>> fuel-related deposits, resulting in better performance.
>>> A lower level of detergent may cause a buildup of deposits on
>>> critical engine parts. These deposits can cause stalling,
>>> rough idling, lowered acceleration and other unnecessary
>>> problems in your vehicle--and your life.
>>>
>>> "TOP TIER Gasoline:
>>>
>>> * Improves fuel efficiency
>>> * Prevents driving upsets (rough idle, hesitation, stalling
>>> and surge)
>>> * Improves acceleration
>>> * Provides more power
>>> * Reduces emissions
>>> * Cleans dirty engines and keeps new engines clean
>>>
>>> MFA Oil Company is proud to join industry leaders by requiring
>>> TOP TIER Gasoline with higher levels of detergent in all grades
>>> and every gallon of gasoline at Break Time Convenience Stores.
>>>
>>> Link: http://www.mfaoil.com/index.cfm?show=10&mid=14&pid=4
>
> It all depends on how you look at it. Unless you are racing or
>pulling a heavy load up a hill it won't matter what the octane rating
>is. Top tier refers to the additives that prevent build up of deposits,
>especially on the intake valves. As far as getting extra mileage with
>higher octane? I don't buy it, either the argument or the product. A
>friend of mine would always by premium fuel, it ranged from 15 to 20
>cents more per gallon. I suggested he try regular instead, but it
>wasn't until we did the math that he tried it.
> It went something like 300K miles divided by 25 miles/gal = 12K gal
>times 18 cents = 2160 dollars. To me it's all about what it costs to
>get a mile down the road, total expenses. Fuel, tires,insurance
>repairs, maintenance. You can drive a Caddie or Lexus and it's going
>to cost you more per mile, you can go to the other extreme and drive a
>used tin can and get down the road pretty cheap. I've found Honda
>Accords and Toyota Camerys to be a pretty good all around cars,
>comfortable enough, right size enough, economical enough to get me that
>mile down the road without breaking the bank. I use regular in them,
>top tier regular if it's there but I don't worry all that much about
>it. The EPA has standards for fuel which must be met and deposit
>problems are addressed by them. I stay away from ethanol. The only
>preignition or knocking I've encountered in a long time are with a
>couple of lawnmowers and a motorcycle.
> Quit kidding yourself, Do the math and get yourself some free money.
Actually the maths work better here in the UK than there in the US as our
gas is
3 x the price of your gas.
--
Sir Hugh of Bognor
The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys.
Intelligence is not knowing the answer but knowing where and how to find
it!
Hugh Gundersen
hsg@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Regis, W.Sus***, England, UK
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