"Gosi" <gosinn@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Jul 27, 2:55 am, "80_Knight" <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > "80_Knight" <nos...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> "Built_Well" <Built_Well_Toy...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >> <Snip Crap>
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> >> Why is it some of you Toyonuts are always cross-posting or Trolling
the
> >> GM newsgroups? We don't come to your group and cause ****, or
> >> disrespect
> >> you. Have some respect.
>
> > Why do you think it is the Toyota people cross posting the GM group?
It
> > seems like CR auto survey results would be of general interest to
people
> > interested in cars (no matter whether you consider the results
im****tant
> > or not). The OP started out talking about VWs, not Toyotas. Certainly
> > some
> > Toyota fans posted follow-ups, but aren't you interested in the
opinion
> > of
> > others - even people who like Toyotas? Once a discussion starts out
> > posted
> > to numerous groups, isn't it reasonable to post replies to all the
same
> > groups? I hate it when threads get dropped in the middle.
>
> You're right, Ed. I guess I accidentally put the OP in the same bin as
> some
> of the other Toyota nuts ("Hachiroku" for example). However, my point
> about
> Toyota lovers posting hate posts in the GM group is valid.
>
>
>
> >>> Damn, everytime I think of expanding my horizons beyond
> >>> Toyota, cold, hard survey data and results bring me back,
> >>> keeping me loyal to Toyota.
>
> >> As for this, I honestly don't know which is worse. Someone who
believes
> >> CR provides "cold, hard data and results", or someone who purchases
> >> something just because they were told to by said magazine.
>
> > People like to have their choices validated. I've always thought that
at
> > least some people who purchase cars sold by foreign manufacturers feel
a
> > little guilty and need for others to provide them with sup****t for
there
> > decision. That way they can justify sending jobs / profits off shore.
CR
> > provides that sup****t for a lot of Toyota buyers. I have also felt
there
> > was a positive feedback mechanism in the CR surveys. CR says Toyotas
are
> > good, so CR readers who own Toyotas tend to shade there responses to
> > match
> > this opinion. Don't get me wrong, I think Toyota builds reliable cars,
> > but
> > they are only marginally better than average and some models are less
> > reliable than average and others more reliable. The differences
between
> > top tier manufacturers is very small. I also get irritated at some of
CR
> > comments about interior materials. They often talk about cheap looking
> > plastic in domestic cars while ignoring the crappy looking plastic
> > Toyota
> > routinely uses. My sister has a new RAV4. Mostly I like it, but there
is
> > no way the interior materials are anything special. And then there is
> > the
> > whole question of out gassing from plastic. In the past Toyota was
among
> > the worst offenders in than respect.
>
> > Oh well...enough from me for now.
>
> Car manufactures are a touchy spot for me, because I live only a few
> minuites from GM's Oshawa, Ontario plants. The region I live in is
> sustained by GM, which means if GM goes down, so does this region, and
> most
> of my family (who work for the General).
GM is doomed so it is sure to go down on you
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You know, you are true Internet s***. Not only do you Troll newsgroups,
but
you also wish harm on people who have done nothing to you. You are a true
low life, Gosi. By the way, with you having such a hard-on over GM's
faults, I must ask, what country do you live in?


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